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The nation is quite drunken enough (The underclass in UK Cannot Control Their Alcohol Use)
Telegraph ^ | 4 January 2004 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 01/03/2005 6:13:22 PM PST by shrinkermd

That the British are now a nation of drunken brutes, justly despised throughout the world wherever they congregate in any numbers, is so obvious a fact that it should require no repetition. A brief visit to the centre of any British town or city on a Saturday night - or indeed, almost any night - will confirm it for those who are still in doubt. There they will see scenes of charmless vulgarity, in which thousands of scantily clad, lumpen sluts scream drunkenly, and men vomit proudly in the gutters.

The Government, whose solution to any social problem is to make it worse, now proposes that the British, having conclusively proved that they cannot (or rather, will not) control themselves, should be granted even more licence to make a public nuisance of themselves whenever they feel like it, which is often. They will henceforth be able to drink in pubs and bars at all times of the day and night, 24 hours a day, instead of just most of the day and night. If there were shares in debauchery, I'd buy them now.

Of course, the Government claims to believe that, by allowing drinking establishments to open 24 hours a day, it will reduce public drunkenness. If it really believes this, it is a terrible indictment of the British nation: that it can allow itself to be led by such a collection of hopeless fools. As to the suggestion that we might develop here the kind of civilised Mediterranean café culture if only drinking outlets were open long enough, you might as well preach the comforts of the igloo and the tastiness of whale blubber to the Masai of Kenya.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alcoholism; anthonydaniels; culturalentropy; dalrymple; nannystate; theodoredalrymple; uk; underclass
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For an elite to succeed it must control the masses. In the UK Labor has found a way--alcoholism.
1 posted on 01/03/2005 6:13:22 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

pictures?


2 posted on 01/03/2005 6:14:30 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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scenes of charmless vulgarity, in which thousands of scantily clad, lumpen sluts scream drunkenly, and men vomit proudly in the gutters.

And here I thought this was about College campuses.


3 posted on 01/03/2005 6:15:36 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Of what? Drunken British sluts?! Puuuhhleeese!


4 posted on 01/03/2005 6:17:18 PM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: CJ Wolf

5 posted on 01/03/2005 6:18:35 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: shrinkermd

You got to stay drunk to live in that place!


6 posted on 01/03/2005 6:18:46 PM PST by crz
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I find it interesting that the "Subjects" are "Allowed"


7 posted on 01/03/2005 6:19:46 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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As to the suggestion that we might develop here the kind of civilised Mediterranean café culture

if only drinking outlets were open long enough, you might as well preach

the comforts of the igloo and the tastiness of whale blubber to the Masai of Kenya.

LOL damn drunken limeys!

8 posted on 01/03/2005 6:20:32 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: shrinkermd

Mostly I think they get Drunk so they can eat.


9 posted on 01/03/2005 6:22:26 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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The Government, whose solution to any social problem is to make it worse

Why can't our major newspapers write like that?
11 posted on 01/03/2005 6:27:43 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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because it's would be Politicaly incorrect.


12 posted on 01/03/2005 6:29:53 PM PST by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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"Why can't our major newspapers write like that?

Short Answer: They go to journalism school while this author is a retired psychiatrist with no preconceptions that he need to be boring to be effective.

13 posted on 01/03/2005 6:30:23 PM PST by shrinkermd (The Apostle John was probably illiterate yet he was chosen by Christ to care for his mother.)
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The legislation attempts to address a serious problem, that all pubs close at around the same time, and most clubs close at around the same time outside large cities, leading to a huge flow of people into the street.

Realistically, most licenced places will take advantage of the regulations to open later at weekends, or a few nights a week. Not many places will stay open 24 hours a day. This should lead to less of a rush to get drunk as fast as possible, and with any luck reduce the number of people on the street at any one point late at night.

14 posted on 01/03/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by Nathan-1729 (They can because they think they can.)
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To: shrinkermd

Plus, he's not afraid of speaking the truth, rather than being P.C.


15 posted on 01/03/2005 6:35:54 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism failed. Bush won. Wellstone is dead. Get over it, DUmmies!)
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Good article. Socialism at it's best: "Therefore, let them drink alco-pops. Then they will be dependent upon us." But is it too un-pc of me to still laugh at the Soccer Hooligans?
16 posted on 01/03/2005 6:40:44 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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>>Why can't our major newspapers write like that?<<

They do, if it is a proposed Republican solution to a problem they like indulging in.

Remember Welfare Reform?


17 posted on 01/03/2005 6:52:38 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: TexasTransplant

Yeah, I'd have to be very drunk to eat kidney pie or jellied eels...


18 posted on 01/03/2005 6:53:10 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: shrinkermd

Frankly, I don't think it's a legitimate use of government to mandate when any private business opens or closes.


19 posted on 01/03/2005 6:55:39 PM PST by Dog Gone
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You are missing one of the world's great food treats by forgoing steak and kidney pie (or pudding). British food is generally bland, overcooked and very uninteresting, but they do a few things well and that is one of them.


20 posted on 01/03/2005 7:02:41 PM PST by expatpat
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