Posted on 01/01/2005 3:36:30 AM PST by Lindykim
In a recent debate between myself and some radical homosexuals, one of them asked me, by way of refutation whose implicit intentions were to convince me that I am a 'hateful homophobe' and also to persuade me that homosexual behavior is a 'natural orientation," if and when I had 'chosen' to be heterosexual. "Was it at age 3, 6, 13, 19?" he asked, "Or did you (a female) just 'naturally' gravitate towards boys or men without any outside pressure or force?"
My response:
There was no 'choice'........there was never any question........it simply occured as naturally as breathing air. Now for yourself, 'something' occured that interfered with your natural progression towards manhood that, in effect, stunted this natural process in much the same way as a baby duck can have its natural progression towards becoming a mature duck interfered with. This usually occurs when a human causes the chick to imprint upon the human rather than upon an adult duck. So does the 'interference' with natural progression make the baby duck into something other than a duck? That the chick seems to believe itself to be, and even tries to be human make it human in fact? Of course not. It's still a duck in every sense of what it means to be a duck. Just as you are still a heterosexual despite that you believe you are 'something else'.
Should duck society and the laws of nature by which that society exists be overturned and forced to become upside-down in order to accomodate improperly imprinted ducks? Of course not. That would be insane. Just as it is dangerously insane for "improperly imprinted" human beings to demand that heterosexual society and the laws of nature by which it needs to exist should be turned upside-down in order to accomodate them.
What happened to the duck was wrong. What happened to you was not just wrong, but horribly tragic. However, for the greater good of our civilization, you and others like you should not be advocating that society and the innocence of childhood be swept aside and made to accept that "improper imprintation" is somehow a 'good' thing. Although you ardently wish to pretend otherwise, you do know deep down inside yourself that it isn't.
What you should be doing.......for the GOOD of all mankind and most especially for children........is learning {gaining wisdom} from your suffering in order that you can PREVENT what happened to you from happening to other children. That would be not just love, but agape, the highest form of love........love that calls for self-denial and self-sacrifice for the good of others
Good post.. and important to keep.. Thanks..
I report, you decide.
I wonder if US donations will be used to rebuild the brothels and if it will be a hitlary used issue in 2006.
As tragic as the situation is, this needs to be exposed now.
Greek TV mentioned much of the resorts were french owned. Any corroberation?
True story that just happened today. My wife, daughter and I were driving down a rural road. Out in the yard of a house were two good sized dogs. One of the dogs had mounted the other one and was really going at it. However, upon closer inspection we noticed that the dog was on the wrong end...he was humping the head of the other dog! We were cracking up because it looked so comical...the poor dog underneath probably had quite a headache.
Excellent analysis SaltyJoe.
I don't think you can put all "homosexuals" in one category. Some are that way because they "learned it". Some are that way because they are just perverted. Some are that way because they simply cannot help it. Perhaps they didn't have a dad around, or whatever. But not all were "recruited". They would have been homosexual regardless of whether they met a homosexual or not.
D00d, what does that have to do with being gay? I do that stuff :-P
That is the only statement that I don't agree with. I'm sure there are several reasons people become homosexual. I only gave the ones I knew about first hand, which didn't put them all in one category. They would have to come up with scientific proof, which they haven't done, to convince me that they can't help it. We all have choices. We have the choice to be celibate. We have the choice to get psychiatric help or help from a pastor if the person is religious. We have the choice to get medical help if it's discovered to be a hormone problem or other physical abnormality. I agree that some are that way because of the way they were raised or treated as a child but they weren't born that way and with help (psychiatric or other) and willpower, they don't have to be that way. It's a choice. Until it's proven otherwise, that is what I have to believe.
Actually, I hope someday they do find a medical reason for the "ones that can't help it", if there is such a thing. If they did, they could cure them or at least control it. Medical science has come a long way with controlling mental problems. People that are bipolar and schizophrenic can live productive lives with the proper medication. I would love to see something like that done to reverse homosexuality but it won't happen as long as it's considered normal.
LOL, that's what I was talking about. Animals do that to establish dominance. The dog on top was probably the "topdog" and the other dog was the "underdog". :-) I crack myself up sometimes. LOL
It's very common in the animal world but really has nothing to do with sex. You won't see two male dogs setting up house together or two roosters building a nest and sitting on eggs.
EXCELLENT. THANKS!
It is true that many cannot control the fact that they are attracted to the same sex, and desire a romantic relationship with the same sex, but they CAN control whether or not they actually pursue that lifestyle. Just as you, as a married person, may not be able to control the fact that you meet someone other than your spouse who you greatly desire, but you can control yourself from seeking a relationship with that person.
Many alcoholics can't help that they are genetically inclined to be alcoholics, but they can control whether or not they drink like one.
Basically what I'm saying is. We cannot control the fact that we are born sinners, and we have, within us, the desire to sin. We can control whether we give in to that desire.
Actually no, I don't think it would justify the lifestyle, no matter what the circumstance. I was referring to your statement that they couldn't help it. When you say that I interpret it to mean they were born that way. Personally, I don't believe that and I don't think they will ever prove that to be the case. But, in the case that you are right and I am wrong and they really can't help it, I hope they can find a medical cure. No way I want the homosexual act and lifestyle to be justified. Sorry if that's how I came across. Even if it was to be found have a genetic or medical cause in a minority of the cases it still would not justify the lifestyle any more than any other genetic vice. It would still be sin and they should be able to control it. There are some mental disabilities that can't be controlled without medication. That's all I was saying.
Other than that, I agree 100% with everything you said. :-)
The only people I believe are BORN homosexual are those that were born with defects. To where they aren't actually say a male attracted to males, but are a male with female hormones that make them feel they are female.
You are a quack-up.
Okay...so how does flogging your husband make you dump your roosters?
That rooster hated my husband. When he would go into the barnyard the rooster would be all over him. It never flogged me but it would draw my husband's blood. One day John was waiting on him with the shotgun. The hen became a widow. :-) These chickens were game chickens, not domestic chickens. The rooster was the same kind that people use in cock fights.
snip...Greek TV mentioned much of the resorts were french owned. Any corroberation?
I haven't seen any as yet, but I bet the Greeks are right. According to sites I've been checking into, the majority of the pedophiles and pederasts are of Western ethnicity and also Japanese. Of particular note though is that there might be thousands of Western tourists still missing. I wonder how many of them were there for the child sex trade?
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