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Persians Find Hollywood's Alexander Not So Great
AFP via Smccdi ^ | 12/31/04 | AFP

Posted on 12/31/2004 12:17:57 PM PST by freedom44

SHIRAZ -- Some Iranians are up in arms again at the United States -- this time because of Hollywood’s version of Alexander the Great’s conquest of ancient Persia. According to Hassan Moussavi, who teaches history at Shiraz University, Oliver Stone’s latest blockbuster is merely the latest in a long line of affronts to the national esteem of the Persians.

“There is not even any proof that this Alexander even existed,” asserted Moussavi, who said he was “fed up” with history’s ongoing fascination with the Macedonian king, who died in 323 BC at the age of 32 after capturing most of what was then the known world.

“We should be clearer about which Alexander we are talking about. There are 300 of them in our history books, but no archaeological relic proves the existence of this particular one,” said Moussavi.

Grave historical errors

The movie “Alexander” has yet to appear in Iran, but here in Shiraz -- not far from the ancient city of Persepolis that Alexander destroyed along with the Persian empire of Darius III -- it is likely to upset a people who prefer to see their Persian forefathers as the founders of civilisation and a matter of national pride.

Furthermore, Iranians have so far had to make do with a one-sided account of Alexander’s exploits, given that historians say that Darius III -- who while on the throne was proclaimed the “king of kings” -- left little in the way of historical documents.

So viewers will have to make do with watching the Persian king suffering defeat at the hands of the lesser-numbered Macedonian forces, and then flee in his chariot from the young blond-haired conqueror played by Irishman Colin Farrell.

For Moussavi, Oliver Stone’s film “is built on a biased and partisan vision of history, and will only add to centuries of distrust towards the West”.

Another Iranian historian, Kaveh Farrokh, has also complained of ”grave historical errors.”

Rewriting history to entertain

In a report in the Internet site of Iran’s National Heritage Organisation, he compained that “the ancient Iranians are portrayed in a way that is comical, if not insulting.”

Roxana, the Persian wife of Alexander portrayed in the film by African-American actress Rosario Dawson, “was not black just like Alexander was not a Scandinavian”, Farrokh complained over what he sees as the film’s depiction of a Nordic blond defeating dark-skinned people.

Choosing Dawson to play Roxana, he said, “is just like choosing an Asian to portray Queen Victoria”.

“It seems that when it comes to the Iranians and their identity, we are permitted to rewrite history to entertain,” he said, adding he was hoping for the day when a film would tackle the life of Sassanid king Shapour I (241-272 AD) who “defeated three Roman emperors”.

But according to Iranian archaeologist Shahryar Adle, Iranians should stop worrying about Alexander and instead embrace him as a man who came, married and never went back.

“The Europeans and the Greeks have seized on Alexander as a champion of the West against the East,” he said. “But it was not Europe which won, because he was transformed into a Persian prince.”

“Our nation has defeated so many others,” added Mohammad Moghaddam, the maker of a documentary on Alexander’s travels through Iran, “that we should not be weighed down by one or two defeats.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alexander; conqueredbyafag; godsgravesglyphs
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1 posted on 12/31/2004 12:17:58 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44
“There is not even any proof that this Alexander even existed

And maybe in Iran the Earth is flat?

2 posted on 12/31/2004 12:19:30 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: freedom44

I wonder if a Fatwa for Stone will be issued?


3 posted on 12/31/2004 12:20:44 PM PST by xp38
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To: freedom44
Good grief one revisionist against another!!

What do you get?

A pertual vortex of nothingness.

4 posted on 12/31/2004 12:21:06 PM PST by bubman
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To: freedom44

Gotta love the mohammedan nutcase reasoning. Nevermind that this movie portrays Alexander as a mentally deranged homosexual hedonist with an Oedipus complex toward his mother...they're upset because they believe that Alexander the Great didn't exist!


5 posted on 12/31/2004 12:21:21 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: xp38
I wonder if a Fatwa for Stone will be issued?

From your lips to Allah's ears. May the sacred camel of Tehran leave a pile on Stone's lawn.
6 posted on 12/31/2004 12:25:51 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer, just not for breakfast anymore.)
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To: ProudVet77

May the holey camel leave a sacred recil on his lawn.

Sorry, it's been many years since i heard the phrase.


7 posted on 12/31/2004 12:27:36 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer, just not for breakfast anymore.)
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To: xp38

I doubt it. The Mullahs denounce Iran's pre-Islamic past. Pre-600 A.D. The Kings as well as all Iranians were Zoroastrians, not Muslim.


8 posted on 12/31/2004 12:27:42 PM PST by freedom44
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To: GOPcapitalist

You'd be ticked, too, if your country had been vanquished by an army of poofters....


9 posted on 12/31/2004 12:28:20 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ProudVet77

May the Holy camel leave a sacred relic on his lawn.

Sorry, this is sad. And I haven't even started the celebration yet!



10 posted on 12/31/2004 12:29:23 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer, just not for breakfast anymore.)
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To: ProudVet77

Too much whisky already?!? Don't worry i'm about to get started on my Makers Mark.


11 posted on 12/31/2004 12:32:22 PM PST by freedom44
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG?


12 posted on 12/31/2004 12:33:06 PM PST by freedom44
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To: freedom44

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OLIVER STONE = Anti-West

ALWAYS has been, ALWAYS will be.

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13 posted on 12/31/2004 12:38:08 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Kurt_D

It all depends on what you mean by proof.


14 posted on 12/31/2004 12:39:37 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: ProudVet77

May the holey camel leave a sacred recil on his lawn.
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Oak Hay... so what have you got against his innocent lawn???

What, not green enough to suit you??? ;-))


15 posted on 12/31/2004 12:43:53 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: freedom44

If I started this early I'd be asleep before midnight in London. :)


16 posted on 12/31/2004 12:50:36 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer, just not for breakfast anymore.)
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To: freedom44
Ahh, those Iranians...upset because they don't like seeing their founders of "civilization" not portrayed properly because of the national pride. I'd say if that's the worst that happens then she should be ok. She hasn't even seen the movie, but already rambling on about what it contains. Frankly she shouldn't waste her money...heard it's gotten thumbs down here.
17 posted on 12/31/2004 12:50:37 PM PST by Ginifer
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To: Kurt_D

:')

"There is not even any proof that this Muhammad even existed."

If he'd tried saying that, there's be no proof that he himself had ever existed.


18 posted on 12/31/2004 12:52:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: freedom44; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
thanks Freedom44.
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19 posted on 12/31/2004 12:53:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: freedom44

They did so well against the Mongols.


20 posted on 12/31/2004 1:04:45 PM PST by PzLdr
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