GOP, You Are Warned

AEI ^ | 29 dec 04 | David Frum

[NJ_gent]

"I'm totally against GWBush's sham amnesty and our loose borders. I'm tired of us being the flop house for the 3rd world. My home is America which is a sovereign nation. Not Mexico's backyard."

Amen to that.

[LS]

Wrong. Most Americans detest the woman---a slight majority, to be sure, but that's still most. And it's much different to speak of her running for PRESIDENT, when many of those who "like" her now would be aghast.

Glad to have you here from DU, though.

[B4Ranch]

>>Illegal immigrants are having a fit in NY State because the DMV is weeding out, canceling all driver's licenses that are based on phony SS numbers. It's a delight to behold!<<

The MSM isn't making a big deal about it. I wonder why?

[LS]

Wrong. Hillary would be exposed in a heartbeat as not credible on immigration. I am surprised that any conservatives are even remotely buying her tripe on this. It's like Jerry Garcia coming out against weed.

[txdoda]

Yup, that's the ticket... put more business people behind bars.

So do you support ALL tax evaders ??..... or only the illegal ones, & those who employ them ???

[LS]

Easy answer. They won't. They would LIKE to "prosecute employers," but that won't happen with the GOP unless there is a corollary "prosecute criminal illegals and deport them." And that won't happen.

The ball all starts with the illegals themselves, plain and simple, and the DEMS will NEVER, read my lips, NEVER adopt (or elect) anyone who is anti illegal.

[BlackElk]

If Hillary successfully exploits the "immigration issue", it will be because there are people who normally vote GOP who think of Mexicans as inevitably Democrat voters, don't like Mexicans, don't like their culture, don't like their social conservatism, are appalled that we now receive 45% of the ENTIRE Hispanic vote (which means a probable majority of Mexicans already given the hevily Democratic allegiance of Puerto Ricans) and the fact that many who regard themselves as conservatives are very favorable toward welfare state programs so long as those programs are only for people like themselves.

People who call themselves conserrvative should look to abolish socialist programs rather than to preserve them for themselves.

It may well come to pass that conservatives will succumb to this opportunity for ugliness against Mexicans. If so, the conservative movement will not much matter because it will be flattened.

As a movement, we conservatives are custodians of the military defense of our nation, of moral values against abortion and "gay" "marriage" (as to which Mexicans not Canadians will be our allies), of resistance to regulation, and of American traditions. Our nation is the last, best hope of the West and of Western Civilization. We are the bastion of defense of life, liberty and property.

The hysteria against Mexicans resembles nothing more closely than the hysteria against the "Yellow Peril" of Asian immigration in the 19th century. For a great political movement---our political movement--- to suicide for such pottage is truly embarassing and yet the Tancredos are bent on nothing less.

As to the phony tear-jerking and fright-mongering over national security suggesting that Al Qaeda armies will be pouring over our Southern borders unless we machine gun the mamacitas and their babies at our Southern border live (so to speak) on Eyewitless News, it is far more likely that Al Qaeda types will come in and have come in from Canada over our far less policeable border with Canada. Of course, Canadians tend to look like us and to speak our language so there is no emergency there, right????

Neither the Arkansas Antichrist nor his consort are ten feet tall and neither, thank God, come in millions. Get a grip.

Dubya's support among Hispanics generally and the Mexican-Americans in particular has skyrocketed. This may dismay genetic Republicans (who diagree with the GOP on everything but tax cuts at the top) like Muffy and Skipper down at the polo club. Mexicans are not coming here for the "freedom" to kill their offspring or grandchildren down at Planned Barrenhood. That very much dismays Muffy and Skipper. The Mexicans are not coming here so that Pablo can get it on with Bruce or Lance. Like most immigrants in American history, they are coming here to escape a nightmarish cartoon government in their native lands and to achieve a better life for themselves and future generations of their families. What else is new?

Lurking behind such disgraceful organizations as FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform) are activists in such murderous groups as Zero Population Growth and other groups of racists, elitists and population controllers. These are not us and are not our allies.

As to your argument by numerical assertions, a charitable response is that if America despised neither the Arkansas Antichrist nor Mrs. Antichrist, then it is long past time to roll up our sleeves and work at getting America to despise both. They are, after all, and always have been quite despicable.

Finally, I do not necessarily attribute all that I am complaining about to you. I don't want to spend hours in fruitless serve and volley with many whose minds are made up so I am putting many thoughts in one post even if some are not responsive to you.

[JustAnotherSavage]

The scary part is how much "support" this "woman" has. Pres. Bush was voted by popular vote this week at the most admired man. Hillary was the most admired woman.

[B4Ranch]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310312/posts?page=24#24

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310312/posts?page=58#58

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1310312/posts?page=64#64

[LS]

Yep. Frist will not only be majority leader, the the GOP will have a bigger majority. Bank on it.

BTW, I was DEAD ON in my predictions of the last two elections--off a tad on total EVs, but dead on in the senate predictions.

[goldstategop]

You're wrong. Gloria Romero here grilled the feds about illegal immigration and she's a Latino Democrat in the State Senate. So its not a racial issue. The Democrats are beginning to see the power of this issue and they're not going to let themselves be outflanked. Its the ideal ready made populist campaign issue.

[B4Ranch]

>>Last year I won a bet that said Keyes would lose by 30% or more, and can't get paid.<<

Who is refusing to pay? I'd like to know who won't back up their word.

[LS]

Don't post links of your brilliance. Talk.

[B4Ranch]

>>You may or may not. It all depends on the trial where all a defense lawyer has to say is that you are prosecuting a houskeeper so that she can have a better life.

That's why all criminals steal, lie and kill. I'd convict everyone of them if the evidence is there.

[NJ_gent]

"what are you going to do, hold a gun up to native born Americans heads and tell them you have to take the roofing job in 100 degree heat or become a housekeeper."

Is your faith in the free-market forces of capitalism really so weak?

[LS]

It isn't going to happen.

a) Dems do not like enforcing laws (except against businesses). It runs contrary to their nature.

b) One or two Dems who "see the light" do not a party make. Have you so foon forgotten the whackos who drove Kerry off a cliff? THIS is the modern Dem party, not one or two renegades.

c) You haven't even begun to see the fallout from the ultra-lib Latino organizations if the Dems really try to enforce some of these laws. That will be a beaut.

Just because you don't like w's amnesty, don't be fooled into thinking that the Dems REALLY see this as an "issue." They will be exposed very quickly. It is going to take a Republican to solve this.

[LS]

That's between me and him. You love threads. Search it out, I'm sure you can find it.

[B4Ranch]

>>Yup, that's the ticket... put more business people behind bars<<

Uhhmmm, law breaking business people belong behind bars.

[Sam the Sham]

Then why did Hillary win a poll as most admired woman in America ? She must have beat out Laura Bush.

And why did most Americans oppose the Clinton impeachment ? Face it. Clinton-hating, like Bush-hating, is self-isolating and self-destructive. It puts you in the position of the tinfoil hat nutcase.

[B4Ranch]

Then I'll have somebody down my neck for saying there was no need to repost it. Click on the links and read it.