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To: Gondring
>>>>>BTW, those who crashed the planes were also male. Many other males commit murder each year.<<<<<


It wasn't being male, but being Muslim, that drove them to fly those planes into those buildings. It was their hatred for this Country and it was from the hatred that is written in the Koran that gave them the authority, in their eyes, to kill all infidels.


>>>>>Christians were bombing abortion clinics...let's infiltrate churches to be sure none of those terrorist attacks are being planned...<<<<

IMHO this is not even close to a valid argument. You can't compare a "few" whacked out, so called Christians, who claim to do the will of God by killing those that murder babies, to a cult that orders their followers to kill all infidels.

Do you see the distinction? An abortion clinic bomber is not acting on God's Word but on his own delusions that he is doing the right thing by eliminating baby killers. He does not in any way represent Christians.

Muslims justify their terrorism because it is commanded of them.
813 posted on 01/04/2005 12:53:25 AM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: jan in Colorado
IMHO this is not even close to a valid argument.

Hits a little too close to home, eh?

819 posted on 01/04/2005 7:02:12 AM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: jan in Colorado
IMHO this is not even close to a valid argument.

Awww, not even close? I thought I was in the same county, at least! ;-)

You can't compare a "few" whacked out, so called Christians, who claim to do the will of God by killing those that murder babies, to a cult that orders their followers to kill all infidels.

And I've heard Muslims say the same about the Qutb followers. Obviously, there are a "few" whacked out Christians who don't follow what a God would truly want. What makes them act that way, though? Interpretation.

Obviously, though Islam is technically against "aggression" (e.g., "Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors."), the imams use interpretation to allow what we (and any sane outside observer) see as pre-emptive attacks on us. I should give credit to the other poster (Fred Nerks? FreeReign? Shoot, can't find it!) who pointed this out earlier. Although we can't stop them from the phony justifications, we can at least force them to stretch quite a bit, not make it easy on them.

Muslims justify their terrorism because it is commanded of them.

And so do Christian terrorists. My point is not that they are the same--except from their warped point of view. And what makes them act? Their warped point of view, not our view! In fact, you use the words "...in their eyes...", which is exactly on target.

So, what's the logical conclusion? Let's look at the incitement by the imams, for one. That's why I asked Fred Nerks about the case he mentioned. While I am extremely leery of interfering in a religious teachings, if there are clear cases of incitement or selective interpretation that is inciting violence, then we have laws for that.

Rewmember that this country's law is based on actions, not desires. It's legal to want to want something you can't have, as long as you don't try to take it illegally. It's legal to want to spread Islam, as long as they don't try to force it. If it were any other way, I'm sure a good chunk of FR could be arrested today for kidnapping ... ;-)


824 posted on 01/04/2005 7:50:17 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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