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Judge to hubby: Forget prenup, pay up
Boston Herald ^ | Thursday, December 30, 2004 | David Weber

Posted on 12/30/2004 8:52:27 AM PST by Radix

In a possibly precedent-setting case, the state Appeals Court has ruled that an ex-wife is entitled to alimony even though she signed a prenuptial agreement waiving it.
Donna Austin was 37, and Craig Austin was 35 when they were married in May 1989, each for the second time. Two days before the wedding, Craig Austin presented Donna with a prenuptial agreement, which she signed, according to her attorney, Dana Curhan.
The Appeals Court upheld the portion of the prenuptial that protected assets Craig Austin had acquired before the wedding. But it said Donna Austin's waiver of alimony was not reasonable at the time she and Craig Austin signed the document.
``It was unreasonable to expect that his spouse, who then had no assets and negligible earning capacity, would contribute to the marriage by raising his child and by supporting his ability to work outside the home, with no expectation of future support, no matter how long the marriage, and regardless whether she might never acquire assets of her own,'' Justice Fernande Duffly wrote in the court's opinion.
Craig Austin's attorney, Jacob Atwood, said he will appeal the decision. Atwood said Donna Austin benefitted greatly by receiving ``hundreds of thousands of dollars'' in the division of property assets at the end of the Sandwich couple's 12-year marriage.
``I think this decision flies in the teeth of the DeMatteo case,'' Atwood said, referring to a 2002 Supreme Judicial Court decision upholding prenuptial agreements except in cases where one of the marital parties was left with an extreme hardship.
But Donna Austin's attorney said, ``The court is saying that by waiving her right to alimony, she was essentially waiving her future rights, which was not a realistic thing to do.''


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KEYWORDS: alimony; badjudge; divorce; familylaw; prenuptial; ruleoflawnot; ruling
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To: Phantom Lord
As long as the couple is married in a country that the United States recognizes marriages from then they are 100% legally married.

I got married in Denmark, and that's perfectly valid in the US. Just get an international marriage certificate to avoid any translation problems on this end.

141 posted on 12/30/2004 10:25:31 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Hildy

Ever been what ??? (I cannot read what you are asking !!)


142 posted on 12/30/2004 10:26:35 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: RobRoy

It is sad that divorce has become so common place that my own children have asked me what will happen if or when my husband and I divorce. I told them it wasn't happening. The only two things that would entitle it to me would be abuse or adultery. We have had our disagreements, but we love each oher even more now. I don't know how I could have gotten through a lot of things without my husband beside me. He's my hero. When we were married we were young and foolish. We were 19 and had only known each other three months. Everyone thought we would be divorced within the year. Twelve years (this coming Saturday) and five children later, we're even happier now.


143 posted on 12/30/2004 10:27:51 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Radix

As I understand it in my state, he could protect his previous assets. Anything after that would have to be equal. As for her signing a non-alimony agreement, my guess is 2 days before a marriage would be considered duress and again, in my state, I don't believe she can legally sign her rights away in matters such as this. I'm not a lawyer, but went through a divorce and this was discussed.


144 posted on 12/30/2004 10:28:11 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: ladyjane
. Ten years later the husband took off with another lady (widow and heiress but not Thereza) and in the divorce proceedings the husband announced that they weren't even married!

I hope for his sake he wan't filing his taxes as married. I think the IRS would like to have a talk with him, and it'll probably be more expensive than if he'd just given his wife half.

145 posted on 12/30/2004 10:28:45 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Go Gordon

The courts are fairly straight when it comes to timing of pre-nupt agreement presentations.

Two days or two hours that is not reasonable. In this case two days was not a reasonable amount of time to seek independent legal counsel to review the agreement and negotiate any additional terms or conditions. There is an element of reliance in the days leading up to the wedding.

The EXACT SAME agreement might have survived if he had presented it to her three months instead of two days.

BTW the keeping of his properties before marriage is no biggie and in and equitable distribution state would be done without the pre-nup. (for example if his house from before marriage is worth $100k at the time of marrige he would keep the $100k value of the house and divide any increase in value during the course of the marraige. So if the house is now worth $120k she would be entitled to $10k of that value)


146 posted on 12/30/2004 10:30:25 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Well, I am not emotional about it. I was responding to the flawed "logic" of your response. And this was an EXCELLENT thread in which to include the spam.

Now let me share another anecdote from my family: My sister married a man worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. She signed a pre-nup. If they were to get a divorce and she wanted the pre-nup waved, I would be HIS witness. A contract is a contract, unless unenforceable, such as giving up rights to a child if you can't make payments, or signed by a minor, or under duress.

The rule of law dictates that for a society to exist, long term, contracts MUST be honored and held up in a court of law. Saying signing the contract was an unreasonable desicion is beyond lame - especially for a judge.

When you sign a contract, you adjust your life to honor the contract. My sister knows where she stands. They both love each other more than any other couple I have ever met, with the exception of myself and my wife of seven years (literally, the honeymoon is not over). And she actually has her own future protected. I am sure it will not matter, nor does she expect it to, but she is a very responsible person and has built up her own assets.

Then again, I believe the woman in this court case ended up with quite a few assets herself...

This judge is worser than worthless. This is a very damaging decision for our culture. It is even more evidence for why men are nuts to marry in the US in the current political climate.


147 posted on 12/30/2004 10:31:40 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: KJacob

In fear that he would leave???

You're kidding right?

That's not duress, people are free to leave if they wish and if she felt that it would be so easy for him to leave perhaps she should of rethought the whole marriage all together.


148 posted on 12/30/2004 10:32:22 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: LoneSome Journey
don't be suprised to one day have a judge say something like the following:

We're getting there. IIRC, people are suing over dropping engagements, demanding financial compensation for the time they spent waiting to get married. Whatever happened to the simple "she keeps the ring if he drops" rule?

149 posted on 12/30/2004 10:34:09 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Radix
All you guys out there... read this!
150 posted on 12/30/2004 10:34:52 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: joesbucks

In my state a wife CAN sign away alimony in exchange for something. Usually it is a lump sum amount which does INCREASE over time.


151 posted on 12/30/2004 10:34:55 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Rodney King
"If it was unreasonable she shouldn't have signed it."

Perhaps, but assuming that he decided that she no longer need to work after they got married and told her that he would support the both of them. I would say that those circumstances should be taken into account in altering the fairness of the contract.

152 posted on 12/30/2004 10:35:41 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Fredoneverything.net

You have to search through the titles to get to the divorce articles though, and there are about 300 titles.

These stories are so good because they hit so close to home to so many. And I mean SO VERY MANY.


153 posted on 12/30/2004 10:35:52 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: antiRepublicrat
I hope for his sake he wan't filing his taxes as married.

Interesting. You're right. The IRS would not be happy about that. Back taxes and penalties could be more than the alimony - not to mention time spent in Danbury, CT.

154 posted on 12/30/2004 10:35:59 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Tempest
That's not duress, people are free to leave if they wish and if she felt that it would be so easy for him to leave perhaps she should of rethought the whole marriage all together.

I was not imagining a normal woman. I was thinking of someone that had convinced herself that she could not survive without this person. I do not know if that is the case but if she was that devoted and he knew it then it would be duress.

155 posted on 12/30/2004 10:36:21 AM PST by KJacob (Faith is not believing God can. It is knowing God will.)
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To: RobRoy
I wanna know how my EX can freely waste (and I mean WASTE) all the money I give her, spends little or none on my Daughter (She's 17 and still doesn't have her own Bedroom, EX smokes in front of my Astmatic Daughter, etc...)

...and there's NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT !!!!! ?????

156 posted on 12/30/2004 10:38:14 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: Sam the Sham

>>Two days before a wedding wasn't enough time to get her own lawyer to go over it.<<

Most people sign the contract to purchase a home on the day of closing.

But trust me, it wasn't "sprung" on them...


157 posted on 12/30/2004 10:38:53 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"...make a home, raise children, and not work..."

That's got to be woman's worst nightmare -- having children, running a house and not having to work at a job -- all while being supported by someone else.

158 posted on 12/30/2004 10:39:06 AM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: Radix

Great,

Now the courts are invalidating contract law.

This is soooooooo encouraging.......


159 posted on 12/30/2004 10:39:57 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Considering all the up front money she spent of her own for the wedding, "pushing it off" isn't an option.


160 posted on 12/30/2004 10:41:07 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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