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1 posted on 12/29/2004 12:50:20 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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Woods shows that the federal government, far from being the protector of the rights of minorities, has been the main obstacle on the path to liberty.

Preach on brother!

2 posted on 12/29/2004 12:54:34 PM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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I was going to buy that book until I read some of the other things the author wrote.

Thomas E. Woods, Jr., Archives

3 posted on 12/29/2004 12:55:37 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: bruinbirdman
Woods shows that the federal government, far from being the protector of the rights of minorities, has been the main obstacle on the path to liberty.

The truth of this is so obvious I'm surprised the reviewer found it surprising.

But, one might object to this account, was not the American settlement conceived in sin? How can one say that Americans always sought to live freely when the earliest Puritan settlers began their "free" society by theft of Indian lands?

A truly asinine comment from the reviewer. There is no connection between the previous statement and this childish PC carping. In fact, the reviwer's PC whine is pointless in any context.

4 posted on 12/29/2004 12:56:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: bruinbirdman
the first Austrian-inspired book ...

how's that?

I just ordered the book a week ago based upon the title alone - I truly hope it's objective fact that can effectively correct revisionist history

5 posted on 12/29/2004 12:56:46 PM PST by SolutionsOnly (but some people really NEED to be offended...)
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To: bruinbirdman

great article



http://www.theconservativerepublican.com/JeffersononGunRights.html


6 posted on 12/29/2004 12:57:07 PM PST by theconservativerepublican (www.theconservativerepublican.com)
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To: bruinbirdman

Those Puritans took it from the Indians the same way those Indians took it from the previous tribe.


7 posted on 12/29/2004 1:00:59 PM PST by Lekker 1
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To: bruinbirdman
Sounds like a very bizarre history: "Libertarian PC".

That might be the fault of the reviewer though.

9 posted on 12/29/2004 1:09:13 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: bruinbirdman
Lemme suggest this one, written by a Freeper:

"A Patriot's History of the United States."

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1595230017/qid=1092168718/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/002-0543492-4011203?v=glance&s=books

12 posted on 12/29/2004 1:52:01 PM PST by LS
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Last week, the background of schoolbooks on the country's history was discussed on C-Span. A guideline suggested for all historical schoolbooks is that neither mountains nor oceans should be mentioned.

The reason is because some schoolchildren haven't seen a mountain or ocean and it isn't "fair" to make them feel either curious or inferior. Honest. C-Span. Last week.


13 posted on 12/29/2004 2:04:49 PM PST by Peach
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Ping for later


15 posted on 12/29/2004 2:29:42 PM PST by OHelix
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To: msdrby

PING


17 posted on 12/29/2004 2:41:32 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Where there's a GI, there's a way.)
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To: bruinbirdman; DugwayDuke
Thomas Woods was a founding member of the "League of the South," a major Southern nationalist and Civil War revisionist group. He's spoken before LoS groups and contributed a column under the heading "Copperheads" for their publication -- maybe "Doughface" would be a better title, given Northerner Woods's weakness for any sort of Confederate propaganda.

Woods has presented the theory that the Civil War was actually a religious conflict between the "orthodox" South and the heretical North. There's nothing new or revealing or accurate in that view. It's a theory that some prominent champions of slavery and secession adopted after the war when support for slavery became unacceptable.

But most people aren't so gullible as Thomas Woods is. If Robert Lewis Dabney supported slavery before the war, more or less defended it later, and advanced a theory of the war as a religious conflict when his earlier views became untenable, we can pretty much connect the dots and figure out what he was about.

Not Thomas E. Woods Jr., though. His is a willed ignorance. It looks like he accepts the claim that the Confederacy was some kind of bulwark against the destructive tendencies of modernization, and his mind shuts down at that point and just accepts whatever pro-Southern propagandists shovel into it.

And yes, LewRockwell.com, the Mises Institute and the League of the South are very tied in closely together. It's degrading and scandalous how they ceaselessly promote his book without acknowledging their connections. Once you realize that it's all a scam, it's hard to have much respect for the Rockwellites and the Mises Institute.

Where they are wrong is in assuming that because war makes governments grow, that all wars that they disagree with were fought with the intention of making governments grow more powerful. There's a foolish belief that the losing side in history would have been more libertarian had they won. All growth in government power is ascribed to the evil designs of the winners. The evils that would have arisen had the other side won are just ignored.

In the end, they don't really care about history and sifting out evidence and facts and opinions to find out what actually happened. At least as far as the Civil War is concerned, they pluck facts or rumors out of their actual context to support their arguments and ignore facts that do not support their conclusions. They are just imposing their own economic orthodoxy on the actual record and torturing it until they coincide.

18 posted on 12/29/2004 2:55:37 PM PST by x
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To: bruinbirdman

read later


23 posted on 12/29/2004 9:04:34 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: bruinbirdman

Save for later read.


26 posted on 12/30/2004 2:59:24 AM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: bruinbirdman

Ludwig von Mises bump -


28 posted on 12/30/2004 5:52:10 AM PST by society-by-contract
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