Human brain result of 'extraordinarily fast' evolution

The Guardian (UK) ^ | Wednesday December 29, 2004 | Alok Jha, science correspondent

[PatrickHenry]

[Thunderous applause!]

[Elsie]

Because it a story meant to teach a moral lesson.

How do we know this???

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The forbidden fruit was the knowledge between good and evil - what parent doesn't want their child to know the difference between right and wrong?

But, the two do not go together.

The parent (GOD) did NOT tell ANY information to His 'children' other than NOT to eat of that tree; while all along they have been eating from ALL the trees.

"One of these days your face will FREEZE like that; then you'll be sorry!" is probably something we've ALL heard, but did it do any good?

Eat of the fruit and you will die!

Not a very nice way to gain knowledge, is it?

I have to disagree - it is a VERY good story: disobey God and your spirit will die.

[Elsie]

surviving??

Hell... They are THRIVING!!

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(And we are subsidizing them to create more!!!)

[Elsie]

Males may "own" a group but there's no real individual loyalty to one female & her offspring.

Much like certain segments of our 'society' today....

[Elsie]

All of the prophets spoke and said that the Messiah would be the redeemer of Israel, would bring back the lost tribes, and everyone would know and observe Torah.  Has this happened?  No it hasn't. 

 

 

Uh... Jeremiah sure didn't!

Jeremiah 31:31-32

 31.  "The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
 32.  It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to  them, "  declares the LORD.

NIV Jeremiah 31:35-36

 35.  This is what the LORD says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar-- the LORD Almighty is his name:
 36.  "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight," declares the LORD, "will the descendants of Israel ever cease to be a nation before me."

If I recall correctly, 'Irsael' was NOT a 'nation' for a LONG time: until 1948.

Is Jeremiah a 'false' prophet too?

 

[Elsie]

Us includes Jesus, who LEFT Heaven to come to Earth - as a man.

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NIV Colossians 1:13-16

 13.  For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
 14.  in whom we have redemption,  the forgiveness of sins.
 15.  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
 16.  For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

 

 

NIV 2 Timothy 1:8-10

 8.  So do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God,
 9.  who has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,
 10.  but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

 

 

NIV Titus 1:1-4
 1.  Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ for the faith of God's elect and the knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness--
 2.  a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,
 3.  and at his appointed season he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior,
 4.  To Titus, my true son in our common faith:   Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.

 

 

NIV 1 Peter 1:18-20
 18.  For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,
 19.  but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.
 20.  He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

 

 

NIV Revelation 4:11
11.  "You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being."

 

NIV Revelation 10:6
 6.  And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!

[PFC]

I have to disagree - it is a VERY good story: disobey God and your spirit will die.

But they don't have the capacity to know right from wrong until they eat from the tree. Not to mention it was a set-up. God would have known all along what would happen. And the curse on all women because one was tricked is a bit extreme.

But good story or bad story. It is still a story. There are hundreds of creation myths. Heck, it can even be argued that there are two different creation myths in the Bible.

The evidence is overwhelming that the earth is much older than 6,000 years. That man has been on the planet longer than 6,000 years. That life developed over millions of years, not days. That the universe is extremely old, etc.

If the universe was created in one quick stroke a few thousands of years ago, how can light from stars millions of light years be reaching us right now?

Me, I find it much more believable that God is outside of time and space so for God time does not exist. He willed the universe into existence, crafted life with evolution. Has guided and taught mankind, wants every person to know Him etc. And is far more magnificent than the Bible gives Him credit for.

[Elsie]

One reason these threads belong in activism is that the continuing attacks on the idea of science by Creationists.

As well as...

Another is of the continuing attacks on the idea of Creation by Evolutionists.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Actually, you haven't explained anything. You've merely taken 5 words to assert something.

Those aren't my words. They are a declaration that came from outside which I accept as a simple truth. Judging by the size, scope, and orderly nature of the universe I have no reason to believe otherwise. Why should I? Just because professional scientists cannot explain it all?

Now, please explain how God does his creating.

We'll see. It's probably some kind of nanotechnology scientists have yet to discover, much as they'll probably discover it is possible for two objects to occupy the same space at the same time. They don't even have quantum physics down yet. "It is the glory of God to conceal things, and the glory of kings to seek them out."

But I don't think you're genuinely interested in how God does His creating, let alone explanations for all those speculative questions. I think it is of more interest to you that reality be explained in some other way that omits God altogether. At least you look smart.

[valkyrieanne]

If that is the case the author is arguing then I don't it can be called Darwinian evolution.

No, it can't. "Punctate" or extremely rapid evolution was one of the "new" evolutionary theories proposed in the past few decades to explain what Darwinism doesn't.

[Fester Chugabrew]

. . . there is even coyotes living in The Bronx.

Not exactly a sign of intelligence.

[atlaw]

Now THOSE are transitionals. The only question is, what are they transitioning into?

[valkyrieanne]

So why are mistakes faithfully copied? Is the designer so dumb as not to fix them?

Because a mistake in one context or environment is a potentially valuable adaptation in another one.

[ColdSteelTalon]

I am so sick of folks who deny evolution, the VATICAN for crying outloud has stated that evolution is not in conflict with the faith.

Really, you mean the same VATICAN that has the blood of innocent people on its hands, people who merely disagreed with the Roman Catholic doctrine.

Anything the VATICAN says in my book is suspect at best.

[NewLand]

Yes. Your insincerity.

Good bye.

[Fester Chugabrew]

There are dozens of ways that evolutionary histories can be extracted from DNA comparisons . . .

Whatever works to support the Theory. How many ways can we extract the evolutionary history of automobiles from comparisons to Cugnot's car?

[WildTurkey]

Yes. Your insincerity. Good bye.

If your faith can't handle a few questions on this board, it is not much of a faith.

[malakhi]

But he signed the 55mph speed limit bill before that. You can inver older dates by noticing that there actually was a 55 mph national speed limit.

No, no, no. The world was created with the appearance of previously higher speed limits, in order to fool the gullible. They didn't call him 'Tricky Dick' for nothing.

[Phantom Lord]

You have been asking _jim, myself and various other posters for "legitimate evidence" proving evolution. Yet thusfar you have not presented any "legitimate evidence" of the existence of a Creator. Please do so.

[qam1]

10 times the previous evolutionary difference.

Well it's actually 25 million so it's 20x

or better yet in just 1000 years of evolution

We went from

to

So it's 500,000x the evolution difference, Which is more than enough for any possible changes from worm to man