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Morris: How Hillary Becomes President in '08
NewsMax.com ^ | Tuesday, Dec. 28, 2004 7:14 a.m. EST | Editor: Newsmax

Posted on 12/29/2004 6:40:54 AM PST by seppel

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To: seppel
Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

He thought that way ahead of time and subsequently said that she *wouldn't* run. And listed reasons why.

Despite the fact that I think that Dick Morris is an amoral toad, his skills as a political analyst are exceptional.

His post, in this case, misses the fact that Hillary's high negatives are fixed in stone and that she would energize the opposition ten times as much as Kerry/Edwards did.

He agrees with me in placing a Condi Rice run for the Presidency in 2008 in the "Hillary Clinton's Recurring Nightmare" box.

I'd love to see that happen.

She's black, genuinely brilliant [as opposed to HC's sycophantic-media-designated-faux-super-intellectual status] and doesn't take crap from ANYONE.

41 posted on 12/29/2004 7:14:33 AM PST by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: Brilliant

I don't see it. Four years of old FDR geezers passing away erodes the DIMS voter base more and more...thank God.


42 posted on 12/29/2004 7:15:05 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: DooDahhhh
Full of himself and trying to maintain his importance. He goes with the wind and tries to guess for the most part. Typical poll following liberal.

You are probably correct in everything you say, but unfortunately, what you say doesn't address the argument he made. Three things auger well for her and terribly for the Republic:

(1)She is running to the right on enough issues (morality, being "born again", immigration), early enough, to make the gullible believe by the primaries;

(2) Look at the potential candidates for the Republicans--not a one to get the base excited; and,

(3) Agree or not, like it or not, Bush's second term will be not defined by the war on terror, but by his terrible stance on immigration and the "compassionate" portion of compassionate conservatism. Morale of conservatives will be dead by 2007.

43 posted on 12/29/2004 7:18:18 AM PST by jammer
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To: HMFIC

I hope you're right, but I am certain that she is going after Florida big time, and a little demogoguery will go a long way down here.

If she can hold onto Kerry's Blue States and win Fla., she's in.


44 posted on 12/29/2004 7:18:37 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: jammer
(1)She is running to the right on enough issues (morality, being "born again", immigration), early enough, to make the gullible believe by the primaries;

And shortly after her Senate re-election, she will start toting that over-sized Bible x42 used to carried around.
45 posted on 12/29/2004 7:21:05 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: TomGuy

Absolutely. The gullibility of the voting public makes me wonder if what we have of the Republic is WORTH saving. (Forgive me--I get cynical at times).


46 posted on 12/29/2004 7:23:30 AM PST by jammer
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To: DooDahhhh
Full of himself and trying to maintain his importance. He goes with the wind and tries to guess for the most part. Typical poll following liberal.

That would make Dick Morris the Michael Moore of conservatives.

47 posted on 12/29/2004 7:25:30 AM PST by DrDavid (Tomorrow will be an even better day...)
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To: seppel
HILLARY PRESIDENT?


48 posted on 12/29/2004 7:26:59 AM PST by JOE6PAK (...diagonally parked in a parallel universe.)
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To: seppel
Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

So many people have counted Clintons out at one time or another with great confidence. They were nearly always wrong.
49 posted on 12/29/2004 7:27:02 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Brilliant

And add at least one Southwest state by being an illegal immigration hawk.

And a lot of people fondly rememner 1995-1999.


50 posted on 12/29/2004 7:30:03 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Quilla

The ENEMY is said to have SIX toes on each foot.

Will someone please post a "Foe Toe Graph"??? ;-))


51 posted on 12/29/2004 7:34:34 AM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: seppel
It doesn't matter which candidate the rats show up with in 2008
We just have to be ready for the worst
That means that the building up of conservative vote must begin right now
The objective of every " red " American must be to ad at least
one vote to the total of 2004
I know that it is actually unrealistic to expect such a increase BUT
1 That should not prevent us to try
2 Even a more realistic gain of 10 - 15 % would do wonders
52 posted on 12/29/2004 7:44:46 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: GeekDejure
Yo foe toe: ;-)


53 posted on 12/29/2004 7:46:06 AM PST by Quilla
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To: seppel
Condoleezza Rice takes the black base and she takes the female base that's absolutely essential for Hillary's victory."

Said Morris: "Rice is the only person who can stop Hillary Clinton from being president."

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Rice or Hillary!. Pick One. I pick Rice...

54 posted on 12/29/2004 7:48:30 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: DooDahhhh

Can anyone help here? In need of clarification here. Didn't DM work for BillyBob and Hillary? I've seen him on Fox, and he appears to dislike H+Bill,but pro GWB/Rep. Is he a dem or rep? Very articulate man,like what he says(most of time), but something about his demeanor makes me a little uneasy.


55 posted on 12/29/2004 8:00:49 AM PST by thombo
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To: William of Orange

I agree with everything you said. I just hope the Pubbies now this as well. I'm sure Karl does.


56 posted on 12/29/2004 8:01:57 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: IndyTiger
That could happen with McCain or Rudy G getting the nomination....because a social conservative candidate will likely run and split the Republican vote, leading to a Hillary win.

The White House support for Arlen Spectre is ominous. If the social conservatives are betrayed on the one issue uppermost in their minds (abortion), they will not be gulled into supporting another RINO.

57 posted on 12/29/2004 8:05:18 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: seppel
Hate to say it, but she has a better chance than Kerry did. She is both smarter and totally amoral and ruthless. Try to picture the whole nation being treated like Washington State's Governors "election". No shame and full MSM blitzkrieg for support and the unthinkable could happen.

We need to be ready for much more involvement in future elections to keep the evil one form having his way...

58 posted on 12/29/2004 8:06:17 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: jammer
"Morale of conservatives will be dead by 2007."

Or even by late 2004.

59 posted on 12/29/2004 8:07:01 AM PST by dagnabbit (Defeat Bush's Dishonest Amnesty Scheme. No Mexico Merger. No Global Labor Market.)
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To: dagnabbit

lol (only it's not funny). Yes, mine was when we got Prescription Drug welfare (and I stand to make a killing from it).


60 posted on 12/29/2004 8:08:09 AM PST by jammer
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