Posted on 12/29/2004 4:37:34 AM PST by white trash redneck
The Vatican newspaper has denounced what it called a decision by the IDF to deny emergency help to disaster victims in Sri Lanka.
Calling for "a radical and dramatic change of perspective" among people "too often preoccupied with making war," L'Osservatore Romano singled out Israeli military leaders for declining a request for emergency medical help.
Contrary to the Vatican report, an Israeli plane carrying 80 tons of food and medical supplies worth $100,000 was set to depart for Sri Lanka Wednesday morning. At the request of the Sri Lankan Foreign Ministry, a team of some 150 Israeli medical and security personnel aborted their planned trip to the island nation Tuesday night.
The Vatican paper observed that in what "should be a time for unconditional solidarity," some world leaders seem incapable of escaping a "small-minded approach that restricts their horizons."
The fact that the devastation swept across different societies, cultures, and nations should help to reinforce the universal perspective, the paper suggested. (Jerusalem Post staff and agencies)
No, you were lambasted for saying that, when the Sri Lankan officials refused IDF personnel, that Israel then refused to send any aid whatsoever -- a demonstrable falsehood.
First off it is ISRAEL not Palestine.
Second the Christian Population has dwindled due to the areas they live have fallen under Muslim control due to pressure caused by the Vatican.
Third lose the retarded tagline because it is well known that on the Sabbath if an emergency happens it is Jewish law to break the Sabbath to deal with it. While in the Muslim world if a law from the Holy Koran is broken it is certain death.
So you really enjoy being a Dhimmi?
Stating the obvious, there were Jews in Israel long before there were Christians there.
has been accelerated by the pervasive semi-official Israeli disdain for the rights of the descendants of the first Christians.
Again, not a breath of mention of the role the Arab Muslims played in driving out the Arab Christians.
The Vatican NEVER denied the Holocaust.
More anti-Catholic garbage.
When was the first time they acknowledged the holocaust?
Here is the best thing I have been able to find. As you can see, far from bashing Israel, it actually takes the Sri Lankans to task for being small-minded.
"Dovrebbe essere questa l'ora della solidarietà incondizionata. Ma nemmeno in momenti così tragici l'uomo sembra capace di superare le «piccolezze» che ne restringono l'orizzonte. È di queste ore, infatti, la notizia secondo cui il Governo dello Sri Lanka ha rifiutato l’assistenza di un'équipe medica dell’esercito israeliano che sarebbe dovuta partire per portare soccorso alle vittime del maremoto."
translation: "It would seem this must be a time of unconditional solidarity. But in tragic moments it seems man seems incapable of overcoming the "pettiness" that restricts some horizons. In fact at this very moment, news comes that the Government of the Sri Lanka has refused the assistance of an Israeli army medical team on the point of its departure to carry aid to the victims of the tsunami."
Even those, which makes you think. It took the wonderfulness of utopian zionism to do them in.
In late October the Zenit news agency ran an interview with Jewish historian Michael Tagliacozzo, head of the Beth Lohame Haghettaot, the Center of Studies on the Shoah and Resistance in Italy. (Beth Lohame Haghettaot in Israel is one of the world’s largest museums and centers of documentation on the Holocaust.)
Throughout interview Tagliacozzo presents historical documentation showing Pius XII did everything within his diplomatic power to protest the Nazi treatment of Jews and ordered members of the Church to protect and hide them from the Germans. Most compelling was Tagliacozzo’s account of his own experience in wartime Rome:
"After the Nazis’ action [of arresting and deporting thousands of Italian Jews on October 16, 1943], the Pontiff, who had already ordered the opening of convents, schools and churches to rescue the persecuted, opened cloistered convents to allow the persecuted to hide. Msgr. Giovanni Butinelli, of the parish of the Transfiguration, told me that the Pontiff had recommended that parish priests be told to shelter Jews.
"I personally know a Jewish family that, after the Nazis’ request for 50 kilos of gold, decided to hide the women and children in a cloistered convent on Via Garibaldi. The nuns said they were happy to take the mother and girl but they could not care for a little boy. However, under the Pope’s order, which dispensed the convent from cloister, they also hid the boy.
"I myself was saved from persecution thanks to the Church’s help. I remember it was October 16, a rainy day. It was a Saturday, the third day of the Jewish feast of Sukkot. I had sought refuge in Bologna Square.
"When the Germans arrived, I was able to escape through a window and I found myself on the street in my pajamas. A family helped me and hid me. I then went to my former Italian teacher who let me stay in her home and asked several priests to find me a safe place.
"Finally, after almost a week, thanks to a recommendation of Fr. Fagiolo, I was hidden in the Lateran. I remember they treated me wonderfully. After not having eaten for two days, Fr. Palazzini gave me a meal with all God’s goods: a bowl of vegetable soup, bread, cheese, fruit. I had never eaten so well."
When asked what he thought of Cornwell’s book, Tagliacozzo replied, "I haven’t read it, but I know that much nonsense is written and, unable to contribute new arguments, they give exaggerated interpretations. I am an historian and I do not look for controversies."
Incidentally, little more than a month before the paperback release of Hitler’s Pope, a new book, Hitler, the War, and the Pope, appeared. Undertaken several years before Cornwell’s book appeared, the new book—by law professor Ronald J. Rychlak—is a meticulous refutation of the "black legend" of Pius XII’s silent complicity with Hitler. It won’t get the press Cornwell’s book did—few in the secular world care about a pope who is holy, even saintly—but it’s an honest, scholarly antidote to the dissembling poison of Cornwell. Look for an article by Rychlak, "Historical Dishonesty: The Lie of Hitler’s Pope," in next month’s issue of This Rock.
In late October the Zenit news agency ran an interview with Jewish historian Michael Tagliacozzo, head of the Beth Lohame Haghettaot, the Center of Studies on the Shoah and Resistance in Italy. (Beth Lohame Haghettaot in Israel is one of the world’s largest museums and centers of documentation on the Holocaust.)
Throughout interview Tagliacozzo presents historical documentation showing Pius XII did everything within his diplomatic power to protest the Nazi treatment of Jews and ordered members of the Church to protect and hide them from the Germans. Most compelling was Tagliacozzo’s account of his own experience in wartime Rome:
"After the Nazis’ action [of arresting and deporting thousands of Italian Jews on October 16, 1943], the Pontiff, who had already ordered the opening of convents, schools and churches to rescue the persecuted, opened cloistered convents to allow the persecuted to hide. Msgr. Giovanni Butinelli, of the parish of the Transfiguration, told me that the Pontiff had recommended that parish priests be told to shelter Jews.
"I personally know a Jewish family that, after the Nazis’ request for 50 kilos of gold, decided to hide the women and children in a cloistered convent on Via Garibaldi. The nuns said they were happy to take the mother and girl but they could not care for a little boy. However, under the Pope’s order, which dispensed the convent from cloister, they also hid the boy.
"I myself was saved from persecution thanks to the Church’s help. I remember it was October 16, a rainy day. It was a Saturday, the third day of the Jewish feast of Sukkot. I had sought refuge in Bologna Square.
"When the Germans arrived, I was able to escape through a window and I found myself on the street in my pajamas. A family helped me and hid me. I then went to my former Italian teacher who let me stay in her home and asked several priests to find me a safe place.
"Finally, after almost a week, thanks to a recommendation of Fr. Fagiolo, I was hidden in the Lateran. I remember they treated me wonderfully. After not having eaten for two days, Fr. Palazzini gave me a meal with all God’s goods: a bowl of vegetable soup, bread, cheese, fruit. I had never eaten so well."
When asked what he thought of Cornwell’s book, Tagliacozzo replied, "I haven’t read it, but I know that much nonsense is written and, unable to contribute new arguments, they give exaggerated interpretations. I am an historian and I do not look for controversies."
Incidentally, little more than a month before the paperback release of Hitler’s Pope, a new book, Hitler, the War, and the Pope, appeared. Undertaken several years before Cornwell’s book appeared, the new book—by law professor Ronald J. Rychlak—is a meticulous refutation of the "black legend" of Pius XII’s silent complicity with Hitler. It won’t get the press Cornwell’s book did—few in the secular world care about a pope who is holy, even saintly—but it’s an honest, scholarly antidote to the dissembling poison of Cornwell. Look for an article by Rychlak, "Historical Dishonesty: The Lie of Hitler’s Pope," in next month’s issue of This Rock.
You don't get my retarded tagline. Hope this helps.
Oh, that Israel. Yes, indeed. But that Israel was a kingdom, as I recall. Who's the King of the Jews today?
"When did the Vatican become antisemitic?"
antiSemite = "One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews"
When has the Vatican not been antisemitic?
Oh yeah...makes lots of sense. /s
Yeah, how dare those Jews want to move back to the land promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Again, to state the obvious, no one presently sits upon the throne of David. And no one will until mashiach comes. In the meantime, and contrary to the opinion of certain fringe anti-zionist chasidim, there is no requirement in Judaism that Jews in Israel must perforce submit to foreign rule.
As the various posts in response to my question have shown me, it seems the Vatican has always been antisemitic. I was reared in a fundamentalist baptist church, and we were taught to hold the Jews in the highest esteem. After all, Jesus was one. It was always my understanding that Jesus did not come here to save mankind- He came to save the Jews, and it was only their rejection of Him as the Messiah that made His salvation available to the rest of us. Antisemitism seems to be the exact opposite of the foundations of Christianity.
That certainly makes more sense, though I've long since given up on expecting much logic from anti-semites, who can simultaneously consider Jews to be bloodsucking capitalists as well as instruments of the international Communist conspiracy.
It looks like there may have been an error in translation from the Italian that got this whole thing started, though I'd be interested to learn what "a radical and dramatic change of perspective" among people "too often preoccupied with making war" was garbled from.
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