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'No Credible Evidence' That Carrying Concealed Weapons Laws Decrease Crime
Million Mom March (united with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence) ^ | 12/23/2004 | Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort

Posted on 12/28/2004 3:23:29 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

'No Credible Evidence' That Carrying Concealed Weapons Laws Decrease Crime
Press Release
Contact:
Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort
P.O. Box 170393
Milwaukee, WI 53217
Phone: 414-351-9283

'No Credible Evidence' That Carrying Concealed Weapons Laws Decrease Crime According to a New Report From the National Academy of Sciences: Statement by Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort

Gun Lobby Shoots Blanks on False Claims That Wisconsin Families Will Be Safer If Residents Are Allowed to Carry Hidden and Loaded Handguns in Public Places

MILWAUKEE -- A new report released from the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), "Firearms and Violence," found "no credible evidence" that carrying concealed weapons laws decrease crime. The gun lobby has long claimed that carrying hidden and loaded handguns on the streets and in public will make families and communities safer, despite overwhelming opposition from Wisconsin law enforcement officials and Wisconsin voters. However, the new National Academy of Sciences report casts doubt on the research underlying the claims that carrying concealed weapons laws reduces crime.

Although the NAS said more data is needed to assess CCW laws, the finding that there is "no credible evidence" that concealed weapons laws reduce crime concurs with similar findings from researchers across the country. The NAS report also found no "increase" in crime as a result of CCW laws, although previously researchers at Stanford and Yale law schools did find marginal increases in crime.

"One would hope this report from the National Academy of Sciences would signal the end of the relentless agenda by the gun lobby to permit carrying concealed weapons in Wisconsin," said Jeri Bonavia, Executive Director of the Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort. "Many of the most esteemed researchers and professors in this country could find no positive benefit in passing carrying concealed weapons legislation. Common sense would dictate that since Wisconsin has such a low crime rate, and CCW is soundly opposed by law enforcement officials and the public, lawmakers should focus on issues that really matter to families such as strengthening our schools and providing jobs."

The report, which examined a host of gun violence prevention measures including CCW laws, called for a comprehensive national effort to collect accurate data on gun ownership and gun violence incidents in order to evaluate the effectiveness of gun violence prevention measures. The National Academy of Sciences said researchers need accurate data on the number of guns manufactured and distributed, access to crime gun trace data, and more information on patterns of gun ownership and types of weapons owned in order to adequately assess policies to reduce and prevent gun violence. Gun violence prevention organizations have long supported efforts to collect more data to implement a national public health approach to reducing gun violence, but the gun lobby in America has systematically blocked those efforts that could lead to a reduction in crime and gun violence.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; crime; junkscience; millionnagsmarch; mmm; nas; pc; pressrelease; wisconsin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Okay, if there WERE credible evidence that CCW laws INCREASED crime, these folks would surely be trumpeting it. But they're forced to admit that there isn't.

But even if the effect of CCWs were totally neutral (intuitively impossible, but let's concede it for a moment), doesn't that alone blow the whole gun-control theory out of the water? It's not necessary for more guns on the street to cause crime to drop -- a neutral effect equally well disproves the gun control theory.

And they know it. Yet they still won't give up. Which proves, yet again, that they are not innocently misguided fools, but in fact wicked scheming moral monsters who want to disarm law abiding citizens (NOT criminals), for some horribly dark purpose. (Of course, we knew this already.)

61 posted on 12/28/2004 4:09:02 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Who gets to define "credible" ?

In any case, i thought CC laws would result in increased deaths.

62 posted on 12/28/2004 4:17:25 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This press release shows the total lack of common sense pervading the left. They will say or do anything to support their ideology.
63 posted on 12/28/2004 4:21:52 PM PST by Apercu ("Rep ipsa loquitor")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The NAS report also found no "increase" in crime as a result of CCW laws

So there is no harm in letting the individual decide if and/or when they want to be armed. It should be a matter of individual choice.

Thanks, MMMorons, for finally admitting this.

64 posted on 12/28/2004 4:29:13 PM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Oh what rot.

Is anyone else noticing the word "credible?"

This is typical of the left coast liberal lawyerspeak, where everything is "nuanced" but never the truth.

And if you do not agree, then you just are not as smart as they.

Of course there are tons of such evidence.

Who decides what is credible? They do.

We need to understand that what they call nuanced, we call *lies*, and also remember to react first on that principle and not automatically be in a defensive position, but rather in a position to ridicule such so called "nuance."
65 posted on 12/28/2004 4:30:12 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: groanup
If perps are going in with the idea that they are going to get the drop on the homeowner then the perps are either crazy loons or drugged out.

Yes...and? Seriously, I think we can safely say that you've just accounted for 90% of violent criminals. Stable people aren't typically given to the behaviors.

66 posted on 12/28/2004 4:35:24 PM PST by Melas
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"The Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort?"

Gun-grabbers.

67 posted on 12/28/2004 4:39:08 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I sat next to several WAVE wusses (all five of them) at a public CCW hearing a few years ago. These people used misrepresentation and hysteria in pursuit of their objectives then and appear to be doing the same now.


68 posted on 12/28/2004 4:41:59 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Joe Brower

Need some help in Wisconsin Bump!


69 posted on 12/28/2004 4:45:03 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Melas

Exactly right! When I am eating my lunch in a Dennys Resturant and some psycho decides to take out his bad day on
the diners there, then my CCW becomes 100% effective.
My unarmed fellow diners might even think so.


70 posted on 12/28/2004 4:55:07 PM PST by ExSafecracker (They are liberals, they lie, do the math!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The key word here is "credible." It's subjective, and lets them claim worthlessness for the evidence that obviously exists. Think Gore and "no controlling legal authority."

MM


71 posted on 12/28/2004 4:57:09 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

no.
nor does it jibe with personal experience.


72 posted on 12/28/2004 4:58:55 PM PST by King Prout (When your dog licks you he is kissing you. When your cat licks you he is tasting you.)
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To: Yehuda

ding!
winner!


73 posted on 12/28/2004 4:59:57 PM PST by King Prout (When your dog licks you he is kissing you. When your cat licks you he is tasting you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Perhaps we should think in terms of how handguns prevent "successful" crimes from happening.


74 posted on 12/28/2004 5:01:02 PM PST by ampat
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

how do you measure something that hasnt happened, meaning, we will never know how many thugs didnt commit a crime since they knew the victim might have a gun.


75 posted on 12/28/2004 5:01:37 PM PST by isom35
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These people need to read some history books and get educated. The people's right to bear arms is a great deterrent against crime.


76 posted on 12/28/2004 5:02:55 PM PST by freekitty
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A commission study by a group that does not like guns.

And every time an off duty police officer steps in to stop someone on a killing rampage or in the act of another crime, you can see what the result would be when other citizens are permited to carry weapons.

A killer steps into a crowd and starts shooting. No one has a gone. What happens?

A killer steps into a crowd and starts shooting. Several people in the crowd have guns and a clear shot at the killer. What happens?


78 posted on 12/28/2004 5:06:49 PM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It's common sense that CCW reduces crime. Robbers were interviewed in the area in which I live before Ohio passed CCW laws and they openly admitted that they purposely preyed on citizens with Ohio License Plates because they knew they didn't have a gun. Why take a chance with someone from Kentucky or Indiana? It was much safer to jack the liberal from Ohio. Not anymore. Now even Ohio citizens can carry and the gun business there is booming!


79 posted on 12/28/2004 5:06:59 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: coloradan
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it's pretty easy for lefty media to refute a claim that something (CCW's) are not responsible for nothing (additional crimes) happening.

European travel agents wouldn't have been handing out NRA packets to tourists going to Florida when they first passed their CCW if there wasn't something to it...

80 posted on 12/28/2004 5:18:27 PM PST by Axenolith (Merry in between Christmas and New Years!)
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