Why the Japanese Internment Still Matters

War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | December 28, 2004 | Daniel Pipes

[forty_years]

For years, it has been my position that the threat of radical Islam implies an imperative to focus security measures on Muslims. If searching for rapists, one looks only at the male population. Similarly, if searching for Islamists (adherents of radical Islam), one looks at the Muslim population.

And so, I was encouraged by a just-released Cornell University opinion survey that finds nearly half the U.S. population agreeing with this proposition. Specifically, 44 percent of Americans believe that government authorities should direct special attention toward Muslims living in America, either by registering their whereabouts, profiling them, monitoring their mosques, or infiltrating their organizations.

Also encouraging, the survey finds the more people follow TV news, the more likely they are to support these common-sense steps. Those who are best informed about current issues, in other words, are also the most sensible about adopting self-evident defensive measures.

That's the good news; the bad news is the near-universal disapproval of this realism. Leftist and Islamist organizations have so successfully intimidated public opinion that polite society shies away from endorsing a focus on Muslims.

In America, this intimidation results in large part from a revisionist interpretation of the evacuation, relocation, and internment of ethnic Japanese during World War II. Although more than 60 years past, these events matter yet deeply today, permitting the victimization lobby, in compensation for the supposed horrors of internment, to condemn in advance any use of ethnicity, nationality, race, or religion in formulating domestic security policy.

Denying that the treatment of ethnic Japanese resulted from legitimate national security concerns, this lobby has established that it resulted solely from a combination of "wartime hysteria" and "racial prejudice." As radical groups like the American Civil Liberties Union wield this interpretation, in the words of Michelle Malkin, "like a bludgeon over the War on Terror debate," they pre-empt efforts to build an effective defense against today's Islamist enemy.

Fortunately, the intrepid Ms. Malkin, a columnist and specialist on immigration issues, has re-opened the internment file. Her recently published book, bearing the provocative title In Defense of Internment: The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror (Regnery), starts with the unarguable premise that in time of war, "the survival of the nation comes first." From there, she draws the corollary that "Civil liberties are not sacrosanct."

She then reviews the historical record of the early 1940s and finds that:

• Within hours of the attacks on Pearl Harbor, two American citizens of Japanese ancestry, with no prior history of anti-Americanism, shockingly collaborated with a Japanese soldier against their fellow Hawaiians.

• The Japanese government established "an extensive espionage network within the United States" believed to include hundreds of agents.

• In contrast to loose talk about "American concentration camps," the relocation camps for Japanese were "spartan facilities that were for the most part administered humanely." As proof, she notes that over 200 individuals voluntarily chose to move into the camps.

• The relocation process itself won praise from Carey McWilliams, a contemporary leftist critic (and future editor of the Nation), for taking place "without a hitch."

• A federal panel that reviewed these issues in 1981-83, the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians, was, Ms. Malkin explains, "Stacked with left-leaning lawyers, politicians, and civil rights activists – but not a single military officer or intelligence expert."

• The apology for internment by Ronald Reagan in 1988, in addition to the nearly $1.65 billion in reparations paid to former internees was premised on faulty scholarship. In particular, it largely ignored the top-secret decoding of Japanese diplomatic traffic, codenamed the MAGIC messages, which revealed Tokyo's plans to exploit Japanese-Americans.

Ms. Malkin has done the singular service of breaking the academic single-note scholarship on a critical subject, cutting through a shabby, stultifying consensus to reveal how, "given what was known and not known at the time," President Roosevelt and his staff did the right thing.

She correctly concludes that, especially in time of war, governments should take into account nationality, ethnicity, and religious affiliation in their homeland security policies and engage in what she calls "threat profiling." These steps may entail bothersome or offensive measures but, she argues, they are preferable to "being incinerated at your office desk by a flaming hijacked plane."

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[William Terrell]

Profiling is not under discussion, here, dumbs**t, arrest and long-term detention of persons without probable cause (aka "false imprisonment") is.

Weren't the Japanese profiled for internment? Aren't we making a mistake by not profiling the Muslims in this country? Weren't you talking about the problems profiling men as rapists?

Were any non-Japanese arrested and sent into long-term detention without probable cause?

You are taking issue precisely because of profiling, Japanese, star chamber, false-imprisonment of Japanese, not anyone else.

Internment of the Japanese, at that time and under those conditions was the best to be made out of a foul situation. If we had gone your way, we probably would have had a lot more Americans killed, hurt the pacific theater effort, and gotten innocent Japanese Americans killed.

Life sucks, you know, when there are hard choices to be made.

[William Terrell]

And this justifies the argument for detaining Americans of a minority group you dislike because...?

It doesn't. You said, "And I asked an equally valid question: How many rapes (and concomitant murders) are you willing to accept before you could think about imprisoning interning all men in concentration detention camps?

I was illustrating the difference in the two classes of offense, if war can be called an "offense".

Governments always abuse power, because people run them and people abuse power. But, either you have a government or you don't, and emergency procedures for emergency situations are one of the legitimate functions of a government.

In the case of Japanese, when it was safe to let 'em, we did.

I don't trust government any more than you do, but we have to do something, because living in large groups has so much benefit.

The Japanese situation was then, and it was handled in non-permanent ways. Now it may be different. This government has reached its senile stage, for the type of government it is.

Soon, there will be tyranny, whether by force or deceit, also the fate of our type of government. Then there will be blood and renewal.

Suck it up.

[lainde]

bttt

[Poohbah]

Pipes shows that the idea that the Japanese were interned solely because of their race is typical liberal BS. Liberal girly-men will whine and complain about this but never about the internment of Germans and Italians.

American citizens of German and Italian descent were not interned without having to show probable cause. American citizens of Japanese descent were.

You'd better thank God that Bubba Clinton didn't take this line of reasoning on April 19th, 1995, because otherwise you'd still be in "temporary emergency detention" as a "radical right-wing extremist."

BTW, are you calling our own Congressman Billybob a liberal girly-man?

[Chemist_Geek]

Michelle Malkin is clearly a sleeper agent for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front and ought to be thrown into the deepest cell in Leavenworth.

Why do I say this? Well, she's Filipina - that's all I need.

Apparently that is her position on interning Muslims. I believe that those to propound such positions ought to be first against the wall.

[Chemist_Geek]

Forced internment of anyone who hasn't committed a crime has no place in a nation built in the name of liberty.

Sure it does, so longh as it's only those Mooselimbs and them damn Mexicans, and those things that don't speak English, and... (/mocking-bigotry)

[Chemist_Geek]

NO ONE wants to intern the muslims,

Not true; that (and worse - Krystallnacht) has been seriously proposed by some persons writing on this site.

[hchutch]

Amazing, isn't it?

Of course, I am starting to have my own suspicions as to why Michelle Malkin would defend internment camps and rehabilitate the entire notion of internment in general. I think she aims to see it applied elsewhere.

[GOP_1900AD]

Now WTF sort of statement is that? Be specific. Who do you claim she would intern? You? So called "militias?" Christians? Just who precisely? Stop beating around the bush.