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Top 4 Democrat controlled US cities more dangerous than Iraq. (Vanity)
BBC, LA Times ^

Posted on 12/27/2004 6:20:31 AM PST by Bon mots

The end of 2004 is just around the corner, and we can safely estimate the body count in the 'Republican' war on terror and juxtaposition this figure to the body count in American cities run by Democrats.

I'm not posting this to demean the sacrifice that our brave soldiers have made, but rather to point out the hypocrisy of the MSM. They are making such a fuss out of the Iraq body count, but the sad fact is, that many of the soldiers (at least the ones that come from Democrat controlled cities), are probably safer in Fallujah than in Los Angeles County.

City     Homicides     Population     Rate/100,000
Los Angeles   592     3.6 million        16.44
Chicago          485     2.8 million        17.32
Detroit            346      1.0 million        34.60
Philadelphia    251      1.5 million        16.73

LA Leads in Murders

According to CBC (Canadian - Dec. 24, 2004):
U.S. Combat deaths: 1,034 (925)
Total wounded: 9,981
Non-combat deaths: 282 (252)

LA - Road to Fallujah

Number of Arrests, Index Offenses, Los Angeles,
2002-November 13, 2004
          Full Year 2002 Full Year 2003 Jan.-Nov. 13, 2004
Homicide      505             428                 442


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The Democrats are constantly complaining about how many brave, young American men have lost their lives in Iraq. We should examine how many more lose their lives in the serenely peaceful environment of Democrat controlled US cities.

The total American casualties caused by enemy action in Iraq: 1034
The total American casualties caused by living in a city run by Democrats: 1674

But this doesn't tell the whole story, you must also look at the respective populations.
The combined population of the Democrat run cities noted above: 8.9 million
The total population of Iraq: 22,675,617 (July 2000 est.)


So the Democrats are busy screaming about how the Republicans are running the 'war' in Iraq, they should be explaining to the American people why the cities controlled by Democrats have higher rates of violent deaths than the warzone in Iraq.


I just thought that the above information and perspective was interesting.
So far, the body count in just Los Angeles and Detroit is higher than the combined body counts of Fallujah, Mosul, Baghdad, Tikrit and in fact, all the rest of Iraq.
1 posted on 12/27/2004 6:20:31 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

I'm surprised that D.C. did not hit there. That really effective gun ban that they've had since 1974 sure does seem to work. </sarc>


2 posted on 12/27/2004 6:21:47 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: HMFIC

I thought Baltimore, Maryland should of made the list too.


3 posted on 12/27/2004 6:25:25 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Merry "Christ"mas Liberals!)
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To: Bon mots

Are you considering the Iraqis murdered since the overthrow of Hussein?


4 posted on 12/27/2004 6:25:41 AM PST by LadyLiberty86
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To: Bon mots
The total American casualties caused by enemy action in Iraq: 1034
The total American casualties caused by living in one of the top four cities run by Democrats: 1674

Should have written as above...

(Coffee deficiency :-)
5 posted on 12/27/2004 6:25:52 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

Really a fabulous post.


6 posted on 12/27/2004 6:26:21 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: LadyLiberty86
I was only counting Americans.
My vanity post is not scientific.
But if I were to have a military aged son, and he were to tell me that he would have a choice of going to Iraq, or hanging out on a streetcorner in Detroit, I would prefer he carry a rifle in Iraq.

Just an observation.
7 posted on 12/27/2004 6:27:33 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: AmericanMade1776

At the very LEAST Prince George Co MD. A war zone unto itself.


8 posted on 12/27/2004 6:27:38 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: Bon mots

True enough. The LIBS love an unprotected populace. It gives them more and more victims for their never ending social programs.


9 posted on 12/27/2004 6:28:31 AM PST by HMFIC (US Marines, you yell, we shell.)
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To: Bon mots

The Blue Zone is the Death Zone


10 posted on 12/27/2004 6:28:52 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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To: Bon mots

The Demi Triangle?


11 posted on 12/27/2004 6:29:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Bon mots

It ain't just homocide rates. The big blue cities offer the most negative social statistics; poorest performing schools, highest welfare rates, highest homeless rates, etc., etc., etc.


12 posted on 12/27/2004 6:30:53 AM PST by umgud
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To: HMFIC

To hear the liberal media tell it, the horrors and deaths of WW2 and Viet Nam never happened; that Iraq is the worst disaster in the history of U.S. warfare....we should have been so fortunate to have had this level of causualties in Nam.


13 posted on 12/27/2004 6:30:54 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA; All
If I'm not mistaken, during the worst days of Vietnam (initiated by Democrats) we were losing some 200 boys per day.

I don't know the statistic for the worst week of Vietnam, but it could conceivably be worst than the entire last year in Iraq.

Does anybody know??
14 posted on 12/27/2004 6:32:47 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots
There you go, injecting truth and comparative risk into a discussion of politics. That's just nor fair. (And I agree with you 100%. Aaron Wildavsky is the leading researcher on comparative risk in the United States, well worth reading.)

Congressman Billybob

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15 posted on 12/27/2004 6:32:59 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: Bon mots
Civil rights lawyer Connie Rice warns that with too few officers to "police humanely"....... gangs are crossing a line that has not been crossed before: They are now targeting police officers themselves. "It's one thing for gangsters to exchange fire with the police in situations, but we are now starting to see sniping"

Perhaps its time for the cops to stop this "humane policing." .....at least in the areas in question.

16 posted on 12/27/2004 6:34:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Bon mots

I don't know the statistic for the worst week of Vietnam, but it could conceivably be worst than the entire last year in Iraq.
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I believe the total deaths in Nam was around 56,000 (plus or minus). A total waste.


17 posted on 12/27/2004 6:38:58 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Bon mots
The combined population of the Democrat run cities noted above: 8.9 million The total population of Iraq: 22,675,617 (July 2000 est.)

If you look at total Iraq population then you must look at IRAQI national casaulties not American casualties which are many many thousand and unknown. If you look at only American casualties, then look at 150,000 troop total not 22 million.

18 posted on 12/27/2004 6:39:08 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Bon mots
But if I were to have a military aged son, and he were to tell me that he would have a choice of going to Iraq, or hanging out on a streetcorner in Detroit, I would prefer he carry a rifle in Iraq.

Then the more correct comparison would be the number of cops killed in the line of duty in a major American city versus the number of American and Iraqi soldiers killed in a Iraqi city with a similarly sized population.

19 posted on 12/27/2004 6:40:47 AM PST by LadyLiberty86
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To: Alter Kaker
True enough.
I'm aware of how stats work, as well as how the left wing media distorts them to suit their needs.

By the same token, the bulk of the casualties described in US cities mostly affect military age young men.

My post was meant to be thought provoking, not a comprehensive statistical analysis.
20 posted on 12/27/2004 6:42:55 AM PST by Bon mots
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