Posted on 12/27/2004 4:37:48 AM PST by Woodworker
A Methodist minister who was defrocked for declaring that she is a lesbian living with her partner ... Ms. Stroud decided last week to appeal, but delayed the announcement until after Christmas weekend. ... Ms. Stroud said she hesitated to appeal because she is tired and dislikes being in the spotlight, but "there are questions the larger church needs to discuss and wrestle with." She said one factor in her decision was something retired Bishop Joseph Yeakel, the judge who presided at her church trial, said to her after the verdict. Bishop Yeakel told Ms. Stroud "the day will come when the church apologizes for this decision."
Ms. Stroud was tried by her own Eastern Pennsylvania Conference. The case now goes to an appeals panel of the Northeastern Jurisdiction, which covers 12 states and the District of Columbia. At the trial, Bishop Yeakel barred testimony from six witnesses for Ms. Stroud who oppose the Methodist ban, citing both legal and theological arguments. But the six filed material that is part of the trial record and the Northeastern Jurisdiction will review that. Ms. Stroud wants the appeals panel to consider that Methodist law, known as the Book of Discipline, "calls us a church to stand against every form of discrimination" and "treat all people as equally loved by God. When you look at those provisions of the Discipline and some of the prohibitions on homosexuality, you have to make a choice," she said. The six witnesses' filings made similar points.
The case originated last year when Ms. Stroud announced her same-sex partnership in a sermon. At the trial, an all-clergy jury voted 12-1 that she was guilty of violating Methodist law. In a subsequent penalty phase, jurors voted to defrock her by 7-6.
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Rev. Anita Cadonau-Huseby (left), owner and creator of christianlesbians.com, and her wife Dana.
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Wonder why that is?
Actually, the reasons for going into established organizations is not so much to "belong" but to disrupt and destroy.
This is the same objective as their wanting to become ministers. Look what the consecration of the New Hampshire bishop has done to the Episcopal Church. This is their objective, plain and simple.
I can see why she'd appeal... the UM heirarchy has dragged this out, dithered, and worked desperately to find some way to rationalize homosexuality, so she's almost been encouraged to give it one more try.
?? What was that sermon all about??
Uh, couldn't you use a different word??
Since she's been defrocked, then she's no longer entitled to be called "Minister"... The media shills once again!
"then Peter and the others answered,"We ought to obey GOD rather than man."(Acts 5:29) but of course I must not
neglect your point -for you speak of the reprobates
homosexuals- those who have rejected God.
WHAT BIBLE ARE THESE PEOPLE READING?
Homosexuals often know just how messed up they are. But they choose to live a lie and refuse to face up to their own problems. The push to force all institutions, organizations and associations into "accepting" (actually promoting) the gay life is a part of their effort to convince themselves that they are just normal folks. If they formed the "gay scouts" it would not contribute to their fantasy of being "normal" but marked as set apart.
There is a very good reason homosexuality was considered a mental illness until just a few decades ago. These are very troubled people. As a side benefit, trumped up outrage and endless battles against the "homophobes" takes a lot of time and energy that might otherwise be used for introspection.
"no, to be homophobic you would have to be doing or saying something that is very wrong. To see homosexuality as sin is not wrong, therefore, you can not be homophobic."
yeah, I hate how "homophobic" implies a fear. as if we are the ones with the problem. I prefer "homonauseaum" ( disgusted with Homos )
Just because you are asked to treat people equally doesn't mean that homosexuality is now okay. Christ showed compassion to sinners while still commanding them to sin no more.
Now the Bishops are tickling the ears of the ministers.... Jesus himself said "go and sin no more". What happened to that?
I have a friend who is currently Lutheran and supposedly a conservative. A couple of months ago she said that she didn't really mind legalization of same sex couples like in Mass, just as long as they didn't force it on churches. I about fell out of my chair. I told her legally forcing it on ALL Churches would be the next step.
Its not the effort of starting a separate group, its the fact that the original group exists and they need to bring it down. They (the leftist) will attack every organization that does not support the political correct concept that everyone deserves to define what they will and won't believe in and everyone else had better agree or they will be offended. As these groups stand up for what they believe, our country gets stronger.
We had an assistant scoutmaster in out troop who announced that he would not mind if the scouts accepted homosexual leaders and scouts. He found the other fathers did not agree with his position. (Even in liberal SF peninsula).
Creating conditions where homosexuality is considered normal, is the stuff of utopian fiction. Not likely to happen with the multicultural indoctrination meetings, because these meetings have run their course and society is still opposed to male-male and female-female liasons being normalized.
I fear for those in pastor/leadership roles because of what God's Word states about the extra burden of responsibility placed upon those teaching God's Holy Word. There is no grey area with God.
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