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THE NEW WORLD DISORDER GIs can be forced to wear U.N. beret
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | December 25, 2004 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 12/25/2004 9:21:41 AM PST by Jacob Kell

The U.S. military can force its personnel to wear the blue beret of the United Nations and serve under the world body's command, a federal judge ruled.

Judge Paul Friedman upheld the military's conviction of former Army specialist Michael New, who refused to don the U.N. cap and shoulder patch and to serve in a peacekeeping mission in Macedonia nearly 10 years ago, the New York Sun reported.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: brookingsinstitution; cliffkincaid; clinton; constitution; macedonia; mikenew; mikeohanlon; paulfriedman; un; unitednations; usarmy
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To: Jacob Kell
Now, the discussion of PRD-13 and PDD-25 will come back to the forefront again; leading the debate back to the feet of the Arkansas Wrecking Crew.
21 posted on 12/25/2004 11:20:40 AM PST by Dalite (If PRO is the opposite of CON, What is the opposite of PROgress? Go Figure....)
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To: Jacob Kell

Right. How does a federal judge from one district rule for the armed forces of the United States? What a clymer.


22 posted on 12/25/2004 11:25:38 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Hodar
"This is not the UN doing the forcing; this is the US Military dictating what the uniform for the day is. "

That should have ended any argument.

I don't know how I would have felt to wear the appurtenances of the UN, but it still says US ARMY on the chest....doesn't say army of the un, blah blah.

The purpose of the distinctive headgear is to provide a common, readily identifiable uniform item for all troops assigned to a particular mission.

Given the diversity of national uniforms, not a bad idea....armbands or even dying a sleeve pink would do it too.

Basically it was a lawful order, and should have been obeyed.

Now if you were to ask me about our involvement in the UN, I'd tell you, however I suspect what I would say would get me banned, if for nothing else, the language would cause the mods to flinch.

23 posted on 12/25/2004 12:22:50 PM PST by 506trooper (There is no such thing as too much ammo or fuel on board.........unless you're on fire)
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To: itsahoot

Reminds me of that old Joke about the Cherry asked an old
fart how he could tell who th eenemy was in 'Nam -came the
reply Stand up and yell Ho Chi Minh is a bastard. If he shoots at you that's the enemy.Some time later the cherry
met up with the old fart in a hospital where both were in
recovery from wounds recieved. I see you took my advice, said the old fart.Yes ,came the reply but it didn't come
about quite like you said. I yelled Ho Chi Mihns a bastard and he yelled back so's LBJ and while we was shakin hands we got run over by a supply truck.
New was Right -Clintons military WRONG-but Bush isn't goin' to change or challenge it.So News' screwed again .Nothin new under the sun.


24 posted on 12/25/2004 1:35:49 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Jacob Kell

This is not news. Read the UN Constitution. People who are shocked by this will also be shocked when the UN imposes its global income tax on the US. Already on the books. Read it. Or put your head back in the sand.


25 posted on 12/25/2004 1:37:42 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Hodar

IT is NOT up to the CIC to change the military uniform.
Congress has that authority-not the President.The President
issued an unlawful order--one that violated the Uniform Code
New was right to refuse. Else why did the US go through the
Trials at Nuremburg at th eend of World War Twice? Under your surmise if the President orders the troops to murder
babies -it would be a lawful order? The President has NO
authority to violate the UCMJ,or US Code but is under the
Law same as anyone else--or by the Constitution ought be.


26 posted on 12/25/2004 1:44:10 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Non-Sequitur

according to the regulations of the UCMJ. New honored the
UCMJ the Unusually good Liar did NOT. BUT RHIP.


27 posted on 12/25/2004 1:45:38 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: StonyBurk
"New was Right - Clintons military WRONG - but Bush isn't goin' to change or challenge it."

Another opportunity for Bush to step up to the plate and do the right thing.
New should make a personal appeal to Bush, if he hasn't already.

At least that might get Bush "on the record" as to where he really stands on the UN.

28 posted on 12/25/2004 2:19:52 PM PST by trickyricky
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To: Hodar

"It is not up to the officer or enlisted man to decide what orders from the CIC he or she wishes to follow."

Yes it is. Always. With every single order.


"There are consequences to his actions, no matter how justified you or I may feel he was to do so."

It is the obvious consequences before Mr. New at the time of his decision that is the source of my admiration of him.

An illegal order is an illegal order. The process of it flowing down the chain of command from the President himself does not sanctify it.

This is how the powers that be do it. This is how they do as they damned well please and the law and the constitution be damned.They put a Mr. New into the crosshairs and threaten him with the full weight of the machinery of state and he, thus isolated, is expected to fall into line. Most of us do.

Not New.

New took an oath to defend America even to the point of death. That oath IS NOT transferrable to ANY OTHER entity by anyone,no matter how exalted in the chain of command he may be.

Bravo Mr. New. I hope when (not 'if' unless I am lucky)my time comes and I have offended the powers unto themselves and I have a decision to make that I can make the proper one as Mr. New did


29 posted on 12/25/2004 2:23:25 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: Non-Sequitur
according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice=Lawful orders.

No I didn't overlook it, did you?

30 posted on 12/25/2004 5:51:16 PM PST by itsahoot (There are some things more painful than the truth, but I can't think of them.)
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To: itsahoot
No I didn't overlook it, did you?

No, but that boob New did. He willfully disobeyed a lawful order and he paid the price. He needs to stop his blubbering and accept the consequences of his actions. Not that THAT is going to happen any time soon.

31 posted on 12/25/2004 6:16:04 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Hodar

I would actually argue that the UN is a foreign country. It is about 99% foreign. It controls territory and soldiers. It levies taxes. It has a governing body. It is effectively a foreign country.


32 posted on 12/25/2004 7:33:25 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: superskunk

Judge Paul L. Friedman was an assistant to Lawrence Walsh in Iran-contra investigation. He was appointed to the bench by President Bill Clinton. His best known decision is FEC v. GOPAC, 897 F.Supp. 615 (DDC 1995), in which he ruled against GOPAC. Judge Friedman was also an attorney in the law firm of White and Case for almost two decades.

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The judge's bio.


33 posted on 12/25/2004 10:33:45 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Jacob Kell

FYI

THE MAN WHO SHOT PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN in March 1981 will be able to take unsupervised outings from the psychiatric facility where he was sent after being found not guilty by reason of insanity.

This ruling by U.S. District Judge Paul L. Friedman has caused widespread outrage. It will cause more when Americans learn that this highly-partisan judge was himself involved in an attempt to “assassinate” President Reagan politically.

Prior to his 1994 appointment to the Federal bench by President Bill Clinton, Paul L. Friedman in 1987-1988 was one of five Associate Independent Counsels assisting Lefty Lawrence Walsh’s political witch-hunt undertaken to cripple or destroy the Reagan Administration that history remembers as Iran-Contra.

Given his past as a partisan Reagan persecutor, Judge Friedman should have recused himself from deciding whether to release John W. Hinckley, Jr., 48, whose bullets came within inches of killing the same President that Friedman tried to bring down.

Instead, Friedman this week sent a message to America’s mentally unstable residents now being whipped by Democratic propaganda into hatred against current President George W. Bush that one can shoot a Republican President and not only escape the death penalty but also gain fame and regain freedom after doing so.


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34 posted on 12/25/2004 10:34:57 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Jacob Kell; Alamo-Girl

Alamo-girls informative page about Judge Friedman

http://www.alamo-girl.com/03152.htm


35 posted on 12/25/2004 10:37:17 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: trickyricky

If I am not mistaken ,New has made an appeal to the
President --or at least one was made on his behalf. To
my knowledge he has been ignored. I have written the
Whitehouse--but with No connection to the case--I have been
ignored-as is to be expected in such.I do wish Bush would have stepped up to the plate on this--but suspect he wishes to remain disassociated--as there may come a time
when our military is usurped entirely by the UN or some
extra-constitutional entity. As predicted by the 1960's
State Dept. Document 7277Living at Peace in a World Without War.


36 posted on 12/26/2004 4:59:45 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: StonyBurk
"I do wish Bush would have stepped up to the plate on this."

Bush has been conspicuous by his silence on several issues.
I wanted to believe he was the man he was representing himself to be.
I couldn't stand his old man, though I voted for them both, for lack of a viable alternative.
I doubt we'll ever be given the opportunity again in the United States of America to vote
for a true conservative.

37 posted on 12/26/2004 5:40:26 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: hedgetrimmer
The judge's bio.


Thanks for the info. I didn't no any of this, but none of it surprises me.
38 posted on 12/26/2004 9:36:27 AM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: superskunk

They must appeal, and I think we citizens should do something about this demonstrably biased judge.

Impeach? Dissolve his court? These are a couple of solutions.


39 posted on 12/26/2004 9:39:30 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Impeach? Dissolve his court? These are a couple of solutions.

Do you know how we can push to start the process?
40 posted on 12/26/2004 9:43:17 AM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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