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New York Murder Rate Falls Again, but Has It Hit Bottom?
NY Times ^ | December 24, 2004 | SHAILA K. DEWAN

Posted on 12/23/2004 8:59:56 PM PST by neverdem

Homicides in New York City are down more than 5 percent as the year draws to a close, continuing a remarkable 14-year decline that has long confounded experts. Five of the other six major crime categories have also dropped.

As of yesterday morning, with barely more than a week to go in 2004, there had been 549 slayings in the city, down from 579 in the same period last year and from 2,245 in all of 1990, at the height of the crack epidemic. In all, 597 people were slain in the city in 2003.

A few of the country's largest cities have improved on New York's decline, notably Chicago, with a stunning 25 percent decrease in homicides from last year to this year. In the first six months of the year, cities with populations over a million drove their homicide rate down an average of 8.7 percent, according to F.B.I. statistics. But experts say that those cities, many of which have adopted New York's crime-fighting strategies, are playing catch-up, while New York is trimming the fat ever closer to the bone.

"When you lose weight, it's always easier to lose the first pounds than the latter pounds," said Eli Silverman, a professor of police studies at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "What other cities have done is quite remarkable, but on the other hand it has to be taken into consideration where they were before. The fact that New York still went down is even more remarkable."

In the country's 10 largest cities, the homicide rate (the number of murders per 100,000 people each year) was 12.4, according to the F.B.I.'s most recent data. In New York, it was 6.8.

New York's overall number of serious crimes also declined, by 4.6 percent, with only one category, grand larceny, increasing. The drop in crime has defied the expectations of criminologists, many of whom warned of an uptick as the economy slowed after 1999.

The numbers are a boon for Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, who is likely to point to them as one of the concrete achievements of his administration as he runs for re-election next year, and for his police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly.

The drop comes despite the fact that the New York City Police Department is somewhat smaller than it was at times during the last 10 years, down to 37,000 from roughly 40,000, and the fact that the department is focused on preventing terrorism in addition to fighting crime.

Still, some say New Yorkers have come to expect an ever-safer city even as that becomes harder to provide. The declines are inevitably slowing, and Compstat, the Police Department's vaunted and imitated accountability system, has in effect made the department a victim of its own success by focusing on percentage drops from one year to the next.

In 2001, the newspaper columnist Jack Newfield suggested that a homicide count below 600 would be worth a ticker tape parade. If things stay on course, 2004 will be the third year in a row that the city has met that goal.

"The good news is how far we've come, and the disappointing part is that we can't seem to go much lower than this number," said Andrew Karmen, a sociologist who has extensively analyzed the factors affecting New York's crime rate, from drug use and unemployment to the size of the police force.

Even Commissioner Kelly acknowledged yesterday that there was a limit to crime reduction.

"There's always unfortunately going to be a core number of homicides that law enforcement can't do very much about," he said.

The numbers bear this out - the percentage of killings that happen on the street has gone down, to 33 percent from 40 percent last year, while the percentage in homes and housing projects has increased slightly, according to a new Police Department homicide and shooting database maintained by the Deputy Commissioner of Operations, Garry F. McCarthy.

Mr. Kelly attributes much of the decline in homicide to the increasingly precise deployment of resources. Operation Impact, for example, pinpoints the city's most troubled blocks and floods them with uniformed officers and anticrime squads.

"Our homicides are down in the domestic violence area, down as far as gang-related incidents are concerned," he said yesterday. "Impact focuses on those areas where you have that gang activity."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crime; crimerate; homicides; newyorkcity
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1 posted on 12/23/2004 8:59:57 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

When I lived in Bay Ridge, there was only one homicide in all of 2003.


2 posted on 12/23/2004 9:07:12 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: neverdem

At some point, the drop in murders has to stop, unless former murderers take up performing CPR on people otherwise dying of natural causes.


3 posted on 12/23/2004 9:10:20 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: neverdem

NYC has less murders than Baltimore and Wash DC combined even thouth NYC has about 8 million people and Balt and Wash have about 1 million.


4 posted on 12/23/2004 9:13:12 PM PST by staytrue (Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
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To: neverdem

This is very impressive. WHile this was happening, crime in London and Paris is rising.


5 posted on 12/23/2004 9:13:32 PM PST by nwrep
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To: dead

What will Law and Order, NYPD Blue and CSI NY do? Oh yeah last season for NYPD Blue anyway.


6 posted on 12/23/2004 9:14:07 PM PST by xp38
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To: neverdem
As of yesterday morning, with barely more than a week to go in 2004, there had been 549 slayings in the city, down from 579 in the same period last year and from 2,245 in all of 1990, at the height of the crack epidemic.

That should read "at the height of the David Dinkins administration."

7 posted on 12/23/2004 9:17:03 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.


8 posted on 12/23/2004 9:19:43 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: nwrep

Yes. And it has unhinged the French.
During the Guiliani years, the French media referred to him as "Guissolini."
However, the numbers don't lie. Success is the best revenge.


9 posted on 12/23/2004 9:24:31 PM PST by srm913
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To: neverdem

The chart misses upwards of 3000 murders committed in 2001.


10 posted on 12/23/2004 9:26:02 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: LdSentinal

Senor Ferrar can bring back the bad old days. Here's to a bloody, race-based Democratic primary. Go Virginia Fields! :)


11 posted on 12/23/2004 9:26:05 PM PST by BroncosFan ("If I'm dead, why do I still have to go to the bathroom?" - Thomas Dewey, 1948)
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To: KarlInOhio

In NYC? Don't think so. Ever since Rudy was mayor the number of murders is way down.


12 posted on 12/23/2004 9:34:45 PM PST by ProudVet77 (MERRY CHRISTMAS, damn it!)
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To: KarlInOhio; ProudVet77
The chart misses upwards of 3000 murders committed in 2001.

They don't count acts of war as murder.

13 posted on 12/23/2004 9:38:03 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Sorry, now I get it. Time for me to go to bed.


14 posted on 12/23/2004 9:41:34 PM PST by ProudVet77 (MERRY CHRISTMAS, damn it!)
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To: staytrue
There's a small, eclectic street newspaper in New York that did a series of stories earlier this year documenting a number of "disappearing crimes" in the city. The paper's reporters actually witnessed a number of violent crimes, then went back and checked police records some time later only to learn that these crimes "never happened."

One of them involved a murder in a subway station that was witnessed by quite a number of people but never got reported as a crime.

New York may be much safer now than it was 15 years ago, but these numbers don't mean a damn thing to me. I suspect the city government is about as diligent about reporting crime statistics as NY Newsday is about reporting circulation figures.

15 posted on 12/23/2004 10:56:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
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To: neverdem

Anyone wants to know why the rate is dropping, visit tsl.org


16 posted on 12/23/2004 11:03:27 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Alberta's Child

Great point. 549+ dead people aren't breathing a sigh of relief.


17 posted on 12/23/2004 11:13:17 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Rennes Templar

I suspect that the single biggest factor in the declining murder rate has nothing to do with crime prevention -- it's the dramatic improvement in medical care and growth of top-notch trauma units in hospitals in major cities.


18 posted on 12/23/2004 11:15:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
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To: Clemenza

I'll never forget my first time witnessing arraignments taking place at 100 Centre Street (The Criminal Court Building). I was there for 12 hours watched several hundred people get arraigned. It was an amazing site. There arraignment part worked 24/7 except sometimes there was a second arraignment part to ease the overflow. Now I heard they no longer work 24/7 because they have no customers. I can't vouch for the absolute accuracy of the crime stats, but the lack of criminals to prosecute is certainly real and indicative of the underlying crime rate.


19 posted on 12/23/2004 11:18:45 PM PST by appeal2
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To: Alberta's Child
New York may be much safer now than it was 15 years ago, but these numbers don't mean a damn thing to me.

That's an excellent point. I've read more than a few stories where the policy of various police departments is to downgrade the seriousness of all crimes they have to report.

20 posted on 12/23/2004 11:27:00 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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