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New York Murder Rate Falls Again, but Has It Hit Bottom?
NY Times ^
| December 24, 2004
| SHAILA K. DEWAN
Posted on 12/23/2004 8:59:56 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
12/23/2004 8:59:57 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
When I lived in Bay Ridge, there was only one homicide in all of 2003.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:07:12 PM PST
by
Clemenza
(Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
To: neverdem
At some point, the drop in murders has to stop, unless former murderers take up performing CPR on people otherwise dying of natural causes.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:10:20 PM PST
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: neverdem
NYC has less murders than Baltimore and Wash DC combined even thouth NYC has about 8 million people and Balt and Wash have about 1 million.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:13:12 PM PST
by
staytrue
(Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
To: neverdem
This is very impressive. WHile this was happening, crime in London and Paris is rising.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:13:32 PM PST
by
nwrep
To: dead
What will Law and Order, NYPD Blue and CSI NY do? Oh yeah last season for NYPD Blue anyway.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:14:07 PM PST
by
xp38
To: neverdem
As of yesterday morning, with barely more than a week to go in 2004, there had been 549 slayings in the city, down from 579 in the same period last year and from 2,245 in all of 1990, at the height of the crack epidemic. That should read "at the height of the David Dinkins administration."
To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:19:43 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: nwrep
Yes. And it has unhinged the French.
During the Guiliani years, the French media referred to him as "Guissolini."
However, the numbers don't lie. Success is the best revenge.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:24:31 PM PST
by
srm913
To: neverdem
The chart misses upwards of 3000 murders committed in 2001.
10
posted on
12/23/2004 9:26:02 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
To: LdSentinal
Senor Ferrar can bring back the bad old days. Here's to a bloody, race-based Democratic primary. Go Virginia Fields! :)
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:26:05 PM PST
by
BroncosFan
("If I'm dead, why do I still have to go to the bathroom?" - Thomas Dewey, 1948)
To: KarlInOhio
In NYC? Don't think so. Ever since Rudy was mayor the number of murders is way down.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:34:45 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(MERRY CHRISTMAS, damn it!)
To: KarlInOhio; ProudVet77
The chart misses upwards of 3000 murders committed in 2001. They don't count acts of war as murder.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:38:03 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: neverdem
Sorry, now I get it. Time for me to go to bed.
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posted on
12/23/2004 9:41:34 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(MERRY CHRISTMAS, damn it!)
To: staytrue
There's a small, eclectic street newspaper in New York that did a series of stories earlier this year documenting a number of "disappearing crimes" in the city. The paper's reporters actually witnessed a number of violent crimes, then went back and checked police records some time later only to learn that these crimes "never happened."
One of them involved a murder in a subway station that was witnessed by quite a number of people but never got reported as a crime.
New York may be much safer now than it was 15 years ago, but these numbers don't mean a damn thing to me. I suspect the city government is about as diligent about reporting crime statistics as NY Newsday is about reporting circulation figures.
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posted on
12/23/2004 10:56:35 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
To: neverdem
Anyone wants to know why the rate is dropping, visit tsl.org
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posted on
12/23/2004 11:03:27 PM PST
by
Rennes Templar
("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
To: Alberta's Child
Great point. 549+ dead people aren't breathing a sigh of relief.
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posted on
12/23/2004 11:13:17 PM PST
by
PGalt
To: Rennes Templar
I suspect that the single biggest factor in the declining murder rate has nothing to do with crime prevention -- it's the dramatic improvement in medical care and growth of top-notch trauma units in hospitals in major cities.
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posted on
12/23/2004 11:15:58 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
To: Clemenza
I'll never forget my first time witnessing arraignments taking place at 100 Centre Street (The Criminal Court Building). I was there for 12 hours watched several hundred people get arraigned. It was an amazing site. There arraignment part worked 24/7 except sometimes there was a second arraignment part to ease the overflow. Now I heard they no longer work 24/7 because they have no customers. I can't vouch for the absolute accuracy of the crime stats, but the lack of criminals to prosecute is certainly real and indicative of the underlying crime rate.
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posted on
12/23/2004 11:18:45 PM PST
by
appeal2
To: Alberta's Child
New York may be much safer now than it was 15 years ago, but these numbers don't mean a damn thing to me. That's an excellent point. I've read more than a few stories where the policy of various police departments is to downgrade the seriousness of all crimes they have to report.
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posted on
12/23/2004 11:27:00 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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