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Feinstein wants end to Electoral College Senator says she'll seek constitutional amendment
San Francisco Chronicle (Online) ^ | 12/23/2004 | Edward Epstein

Posted on 12/23/2004 8:40:52 AM PST by 1066AD

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To: mysto
Hey everybody... torelian got ZOTTED! #65 is gone & so is his account! HA HA HA!

81 posted on 12/23/2004 9:11:02 AM PST by mysto
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To: geedee

I am all for California to split their electoral college votes, but let Idaho stay winner take all. So how about it Di Fi?


82 posted on 12/23/2004 9:12:16 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: WayneH
Senators ... represent the entire state

Only until they get to Washington. lol. Then, they represent themselves and their own self-interests.
83 posted on 12/23/2004 9:13:01 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush
The Electoral College should be repleaced. It was originally designed to overcome problems with the communications system at the time.

Some argue that we need the college so the smaller states will be potected. But the curent system still favors the larger states. The only states that are visited by candidates are those with the most electoral votes or those that the candidates feel are in play. I live in Indiana, a state ignored during the entire campaign. Yet with 11 votes we have more electoral votes than most of the states in the union.

I voted for Bush and am glad he won, but I would have loved the opportunity to have heard him speak or to feel as if he cared what happened here. I don't like the "all or nothing" distribution system, which gives the winner all the electoral votes even with a 1 vote majority in the popular vote. This essentially takes away the popular vote from those people who vote for the losing candidate.

Look it at this way. If you examine the break of the popular vote by counties, AND, if the electoral votes had been divided according to percentages, then the mandate Bush has rightfully claimed would be overwhelming. Take Illinois. Cook County determines the entire outcome for the state of Illinois. Cook County is a strong bastian of Democrats, but almost every other county went to Bush.

84 posted on 12/23/2004 9:13:10 AM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: 1066AD
Man if she does not like the system in place because it favors republicans at the moment, she wants to change it. Well, cry me a river Feinstein, damage to the union? who cares! Just gimme gimme gimme!!!

This is right out of the liberal playbook, move the posts until the rules favor the dems.

Well maybe the republicans should take her on and tag on to the amendment that if the vote fails, the electoral college process cannot be changed. FOREVER

85 posted on 12/23/2004 9:13:27 AM PST by bubman
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To: GOP_Raider
Well, that's just it...with her leftist bent, there's no way the people of the Great State of Idaho would have her as their Senator.

LOL. Good point.

86 posted on 12/23/2004 9:14:23 AM PST by geedee (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.)
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To: 1066AD

I'd lay $$, Feinstein is merely the mouthpiece chosen for the DNC to move on their position. As she is not the candidate for 08, she's not pulling the strings, but is doing as she is told. Anyway, she's not welcome here.


87 posted on 12/23/2004 9:14:44 AM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: snowman1
...and can you imagine the nightmare of a national recount in a closely contested election?

It could take months, even years to accomplish.

88 posted on 12/23/2004 9:15:05 AM PST by THX 1138
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To: 1066AD

I remember Hillary's response when questioned on abolishing the EC: One word... "Wyoming".

Go Cheney!


89 posted on 12/23/2004 9:18:40 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah from the Family - Feliz Navidad *<[:o))))
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To: doc30

"(Liberals--Ialics mine) believe a fair system is one where everyone is equal."

I disagree. Only those who agree with them are equal, but there is a levelled equality in there, including an us vs. them socialistic arrangement: do what I tell you, as I know better than you.

The counterculturalists of the 60s were said to be even more power hungry than those who worked within the system. Sounds like today's Democratic Party to me.


90 posted on 12/23/2004 9:19:16 AM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: 1066AD
Actually, I think it will be a court case before or after an amendment is offered. The concept is exactly as she stated, one person, one vote. Now, states with a higher percentage of congressional representation per capita have what amounts to more than one vote per person. The liberals will argue equal representation. They will ask the courts to overturn the Constitutional provisions for the election of a President on Constitutional grounds.
91 posted on 12/23/2004 9:19:47 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: 1066AD

Dropping the electors would very likely put every election into the hands of the trial lawyers. As it is, we have had problems in Florida, New Jersey, Ohio, Washington, New Mexico, and so forth, but nevertheless we now officially have a president, because the electors have voted and the election is over.

Do away with the electors and the Democrats would mount a chad war such as America has never seen. Clinton would still be acting president right now, while we counted and recounted the ballots from the 2000 election and Bush stood by waiting for the results.


92 posted on 12/23/2004 9:20:10 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 1066AD

Liberalism is a mental illness.


93 posted on 12/23/2004 9:20:53 AM PST by microgood (Washington State: Ukraine without the poison)
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To: Military family member
It was originally designed to overcome problems with the communications system at the time.

Perhaps you could provide some evidence to support that statement?

94 posted on 12/23/2004 9:22:22 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: torelian

Sorry.
Your guy lost.
Deal with it.


95 posted on 12/23/2004 9:23:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Beauty always comes with dark thoughts)
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To: bmwcyle
and thus the reason to start this.

What a ticket - hillary and Feinstein!

It is expected that the she part of the clinton clan will make a run in 08 - but a more interesting subject will be -- who with?

96 posted on 12/23/2004 9:23:36 AM PST by malia (a cherished constitutional right -- the right to vote-)
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To: 1066AD

Our founding fathers came up with the electoral college for a reason.


97 posted on 12/23/2004 9:23:46 AM PST by Nascardude
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To: 1066AD

The ONLY way the Dems will ever get rid of the EC is if they pack the Supreme Court with justices who will invoke some new-fangled principle of international law which they will say overrides our Constitution. Only the Dems would have the chutzpah to declare the Constitution itself unconstitutional, but in this era of "gay marriage" I won't be surprised at anything, no matter how ridiculous.


98 posted on 12/23/2004 9:24:46 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Nascardude
Many reasons.
99 posted on 12/23/2004 9:25:31 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: 1066AD

This is part of the Demonrat playbook. They will try to destroy the Democracy that they pretend the name of their party stands for.


100 posted on 12/23/2004 9:26:59 AM PST by jonrick46
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