Posted on 12/23/2004 3:55:48 AM PST by dzzrtrock
...Susan Holt, program coordinator for domestic violence services at the L.A. Gay and Lesbian Center, said, "When we’re looking at the difference between the two reports, it really is true" that domestic violence is as serious a problem for Gays as hate crimes.
"The fact is, Gay men and Lesbians are more likely to be injured by an intimate partner than a stranger," Holt said....
(Excerpt) Read more at fathersforlife.org ...
I have said this for years.
After I was discharged from the Marine Corps, I worked as a security guard while in school. I was assigned to do parking lot duty at a gay bar in Tampa. What a crazy bunch of homicidal loons!Often it was a he/he fight over some perversion. Now when the lesbians got in a fight someone WAS going to the hospital.Oh the horror....the horror...
Ya know, when people choose to live an immoral life style, that immorality permeates into all aspects of that life style. Therefore, it's hardly surprising that there is violence, cheating, jealousy, etc. It's all part of the package.
So in trying to portray homosexuality as a moral, natural, and decent alternative lifestyle, the truth of that smacks us right in the face. It is NOT moral. The facts need to be stated again and again.
Uh, yeah. Slightly.
"The American Family Association of Michigan, in a statement delivered Thursday to the task force during its hearing at Saginaw Valley State University, said data from law enforcement agencies and homosexual activists themselves indicates that the risk of domestic violence at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners is a staggering 50,000 percent greater for individuals involved in homosexual behavior than the risk of being attacked by someone motivated by disapproval of such behavior."
-- freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1086867/posts
Sounds to me that domestic violence among homosexual partners is more prevalent than violence directed against gay's(ie hate crimes). Why doesn't the msm report more on topics like this? The gay community should be outraged! How many homosexuals are suffering in silence?
The self loathing destructive behavior seems to track the same results of a drug addict who hates themselves after they score a drug fix.
Nothing will helpful to deal with this issue until society can uniformly deal with this as a destructive behavior. A fetish which needs treatment, not special protection by law.
Women as a group (not just lesbians) tend to initiate more domestic violence than men. They often admit to being the one who took the first swing, hit first, kicked first, etc. So in a "relationship" with TWO women, the likelihood of domestic violence occurring naturally doubles.
It seems to me that society is trying to deal with the destructive behavior by making it acceptable. An apple may be beautiful on the outside, but have a rotten core.
Homosexuality is the rotten core, no matter how we try to polish up the outside. What a shame for our youth who may only see the truth when it's much too late.
Question: Why are the words "Gays" and "Lesbians" always capitalized in the MSM while words like "white men and white women" are not? For that matter "heterosexual" is not capitalized unless it is the first word in the sentence.
As for the high incidence of domestic violence, STD's, etc. amongst Queers - it is obviously Bush's fault.
Thanks for the ping and the data re the violence that gays do to each other in the Name Of Gay Love!
Thanks for posting this. This data is like the reality that if a black is murdered, the stats are tremendous re another black killed the black.
"The American Family Association of Michigan, in a statement delivered Thursday to the task force during its hearing at Saginaw Valley State University, said data from law enforcement agencies and homosexual activists themselves indicates that the risk of domestic violence at the hands of their own homosexual sex partners is a staggering 50,000 percent greater for individuals involved in homosexual behavior than the risk of being attacked by someone motivated by disapproval of such behavior."
Men are culturally and legally restrained from hitting their wives/girlfriends, even if the woman starts hitting them first. No such restraint applies to girl/girl and guy/guy fights.
"True.
Self-loathing comes in all shapes and sizes.
The high rate of alcoholism among homosexuals is probably the real problem here."
Add to the above, the very high rate of use of illegal drugs and the illegal use of legal drugs by the Gay Male population. Then you have even more reasons why they beat the hell out of each other, kill each other and then commit suicide.
While not everyone shares that self loathing, those that manifest violence do fit the M. O. you describe. However, that crosses into the heterosexual portion of the population as well. But you and some of the others are right that if you are homosexual in a society that hates you...you run a higher risk of developing deep seated self-loathing. Once you are at that point, domestic violence is probably not far behind and you will probably be the perpetrator.
One wonders, "If society didn't hate homosexuals so much, would their self-loathing be as deep and therefore, would the manifestation of domestic violence be reduced in incidence?"
The tilt is even more pronounced when you take into account that in FBI statistics, Hispanics are counted as Hispanics when they are victims, but as white when they are the perpetrators. So all Hispanic-on-black violence is counted as "white-on-black".
Can this be even remotely true? 1 in 4 or 1 in 3 of the people I meet are involved in a relationship involving abuse? I don't begin to believe that without some SERIOUS supporting evidence.
Of course, if they consider it abuse to have defined gender roles that have been agreed to by both spouses before marriage...
Shalom.
It could only be the bush's fault in lesbian relationships, not gay ones.
Unless you mean - oh, nevermind.
Shalom.
People don't loathe homosexual behavior because they want to. It's natural since homosexual behavior is very unnatural. That loathing is a defense mechanism to keep homosexual behavior out. However, human beings being the complex creatures we are, can do the very things we don't want to do.
The solution is not to learn not to loathe homosexual behavior. The solution is to make treatment more readily available and to de-stigmatize seeking treatment so that everyone can easily get the help they need.
Shalom.
"Men are culturally and legally restrained from hitting their wives/girlfriends, even if the woman starts hitting them first. No such restraint applies to girl/girl and guy/guy fights."
The potential legal problems of a male defending himself after being attacked by a hostile woman are very scary.
My first heads up re the gay violence on gays came during the BS release of how women were beaten up during Bowl Games and the Super Bowls. Every ER doc and RN that I knew said that was BS. The real violence they saw on holidays and those days for the most part came from Gay on Gay violence. Now that data is being released.
Wonder if it's the butch or the fem that does more bashing?
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