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1 posted on 12/21/2004 3:59:39 PM PST by beavus
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It's so much easier that way;)


2 posted on 12/21/2004 4:01:39 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT - B.F)
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Subordinate women are a disaster waiting to happen. Easy harassment case.

Business IMO needs to be kept business.

3 posted on 12/21/2004 4:02:26 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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Horse excrement! Any female executives, doctors, lawyers, successful salesladies, entrepreneurs, etc., contact me through this site, I am very interested in dating you! LOL


4 posted on 12/21/2004 4:03:44 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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"These findings provide empirical support for the widespread belief that powerful women are at a disadvantage in the marriage market because men may prefer to marry less accomplished women,"

Finally, I have a study to point to. :-)

6 posted on 12/21/2004 4:10:03 PM PST by njwoman
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"Brown and Lewis found that males, but not females, were most strongly attracted to subordinate partners for high-investment activities such as marriage and dating."

Well no kidding. So you went to graduate school and spent tens of thousands of dollars to learn that little nugget? What sort of male actually seeks out somebody that they know for sure will make every decision a challenge, every conversation a debate, and every single part of their miserable existence contested?

Putting two leaders into the same relationship is a quick ticket to a personal hell.

I'm sure glad we had these experts to warn us ahead of time.

7 posted on 12/21/2004 4:10:30 PM PST by USMCVet
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These findings provide empirical support for the widespread belief that powerful women are at a disadvantage in the marriage market because men may prefer to marry less accomplished women,"...

Does this mean that the gene pool of "powerful women" will one day be depleted due to a lack of compliant men?

8 posted on 12/21/2004 4:11:04 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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So men don't want to marry a "liberated" femi-nazi? Wow, that's news to me. My hats off to Captain Obvious over at the University of Michigan for filling us in on this one.
9 posted on 12/21/2004 4:11:36 PM PST by Jaysun (I'm pleased to report that Arafat's condition remains stable.)
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To: beavus

Same study, but the article's from a different newspaper (338 posts):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300165/posts


10 posted on 12/21/2004 4:13:34 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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Extremely attractive women TYPICALLY do not go to college and pursue a degree. These women know that they can trade on their looks, and often do. Thus, when these women enter the job market, they will enter as a subordinate.

So, GENERALLY speaking; a man has a choice of a mega-babe he works with and is a subordinate; or a reasonably attractive (or unattractive) woman who is his peer. Do the math....

This is MY personal observations, your mileage and experiences may vary. I'm sure that there are fantastically beautiful, highly educated model-like sexys superstars in the workforce ... I just don't see them.


11 posted on 12/21/2004 4:13:43 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Their use of undergraduates, most of whom have never worked in businesses, makes me question their method. However, I'm not surprised by the results.


12 posted on 12/21/2004 4:15:05 PM PST by expatpat
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Already posted, refuted, and beaten to death:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300165/posts

17 posted on 12/21/2004 4:17:59 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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Hmm. Like, duh!

Why are we even having this discussion?

Just ask the pro: - Slick Willie.
21 posted on 12/21/2004 4:19:30 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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I can't help but think of Jack Nicholson's character from a few good men (Col Jessup). In particular, his comment praising high ranking women (so he could get a BJ from a superior officer).


23 posted on 12/21/2004 4:22:04 PM PST by rbg81
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To: beavus; firebrand

"Domination is Sweeter than Fornication" --- Neopolitan Saying


25 posted on 12/21/2004 4:25:05 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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"Brown and Lewis found that males, but not females, were most strongly attracted to subordinate partners for high-investment activities such as marriage and dating."

So the study found men prefer a subordinate partner, and that women prefer a dominant partner. That seems to all balance out OK, doesn't it.
27 posted on 12/21/2004 4:29:41 PM PST by antiantiamericans
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Did they factor out that subordinates are probably prettier and younger?

Didn't think so...


29 posted on 12/21/2004 4:37:23 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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Two words: NO NAGGING


30 posted on 12/21/2004 4:39:50 PM PST by rudypoot
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Does anyone notice that this study is from the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, that liberal haven that spawned the SDS, and has been for decades a Berkeley wannabe?


31 posted on 12/21/2004 4:40:57 PM PST by xJones
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To: beavus
note the problem with this "study".

the trait that men wish to avoid is pushy, bossy women. It is an inaccurate description to say that the desirable women are "sublordinate". It is this kind of definitional skewing that makes this study fairly useless.

There are other psychic conotations to the word "subordinate" which the "testers" and "designers" of this study and the reporting on it, wish to convey and those meanings are other than the meanings strictly entailed in their original use of the term "subordinate" ---simply that a person is not your boss or colleague at work.

This is why thsess kinds of studies are so pernicious.

35 posted on 12/21/2004 4:48:14 PM PST by ontos-on
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"Given that female infidelity is a severe reproductive threat to males only when investment is high, a preference for subordinate partners may provide adaptive benefits to males in the context of only long-term, investing relationships---not one-night stands."

Sooo.... Men fear infidelity in long-term relationships, therefore, they tend to prefer subordinate women. The same subordinate women that other men find attractive. Because women with lots of men attracted to them are less likely to be unfaithful. Sure, makes sense to me.

37 posted on 12/21/2004 4:55:50 PM PST by closet freeper
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