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Christian Protestors Face 47 Years in Jail for Encounter at 'Gay Pride' Event
CNSNews.com ^ | December 16, 2004 | Randy Hall

Posted on 12/17/2004 9:38:12 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K

Four people who were arrested during a confrontation at an annual homosexual pride event in Philadelphia could spend up to 47 years in prison for public reading of Scripture, an attorney for a pro-family organization said on Thursday.

Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association (AFA) Center for Law and Policy, is representing the group in court. He claims the Christian activists are being persecuted simply for exercising their constitutional rights.

"They were exercising their First Amendment rights in a public forum, and we have videotape that demonstrates that," Fahling said.

The case began on Oct. 10, when Repent America Director Michael Marcavage and 10 other persons preached and read verses from the Bible during an annual "gay pride" event known as "Outfest" in Philadelphia.

Fahling said that a video of the confrontation showed Marcavage speaking through a bullhorn while he and his supporters were "being shouted down by irate gay activists."

However, city officials told the Philadelphia Inquirer that the video did not show the start of the confrontation, when they said Marcavage tried to interrupt an onstage performance with his preaching and then disobeyed a police order to move to the perimeter of the "block party" to avoid the potential for violence.

"They were not prohibited from preaching," said Karen Brancheau, a lawyer for the district attorney's office. "A reasonable request was made to prevent a situation from becoming dangerous to their own safety, as well as the safety of the participants."

Charges were later dropped against seven people in the "Philadelphia 11" because they were not seen quoting Scripture on a videotape of the incident.

However, the remaining four individuals have been ordered to stand trial on three felony counts -- criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation and riot -- and five misdemeanor charges. If convicted, Fahling said, they could face up to 47 years in prison.

Charles Ehrlich, the city prosecutor in the case, has called the Christian protestors "hateful" and referred to preaching the Bible as using "fighting words."

Philadelphia Municipal Court Judge William Austin Meehan has banned the protestors from doing any type of evangelism within 100 yards of any "gay and lesbian event."

This past week, U.S. District Judge Petrese B. Tucker denied emergency relief from prosecution despite video footage Fahling calls "undisputed evidence" that the group cooperated with police and were continually harassed by members of a homosexual organization called the Pink Angels.

Then on Tuesday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit turned down a similar appeal.

Since the federal courts did not intervene, the last route for the group to avoid trial would be an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, Fahling said

"First, symbols of Christianity are removed from the public square; now, Christians are facing 47 years in prison because they preached the gospel in the public square. Stalin would be proud," Fahling concluded.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: breaking; christian; culturewar; homosexualagenda; martyr; michaelmarcavage; outfest; philadelphia; repentamerica; revolution; sodomites
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

How many times have homosexuals invaded assemblies, churches, or other events and got away scott free simply because they are homosexuals.

I remember one story where some homosexual activists splashed blood in or on a church. They protest events like Love Won Out conferences, and they're message is not one of love, but of hate for the people attending.

If the Christian group was behaving badly, so what. They aren't doing anything that hasn't been done to other Christian groups.


141 posted on 12/17/2004 4:28:05 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Christian Protestors Face 47 Years in Jail for Encounter at 'Gay Pride' Event

Hey, you try to be Christian in the old Communist countries, you paid the price.

Now, try to be Christian in the local Sodom and Gamorrahs of the USA...you pay the price.
142 posted on 12/17/2004 4:29:51 PM PST by VOA
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
How do you get from DirtyHarry calling the event a 'pervert pride rally' to your questioning his sense of right and wrong? When homosexuals brazenly parade their perversion in the public square then it's no distortion of the truth to call it a 'pervert pride rally'.

Oftentimes our personal feelings prevent us from seeing right from wrong. The protesters were wrong, and luckily only they suffered for their mistakes. DirtyHarry's dislike of gays prevents him from acknowledging that and thereby blinds him, in this case, from understanding right from wrong.

143 posted on 12/17/2004 4:35:35 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: gidget7
Excuse me, those who were there tell quite a different story. You are W R O N G

Were you there? Or do you know someone who was and is telling a different story from the person I talked to and the police report?

In any other city, folks who are, oh say homeless, for instance, and stand on a box in the center of a sidewalk, with signs, yelling Repent......the end is coming! Are perfectly free to do so, wrong that they may be. You just can't stand that there is any opposition, however calm and subtle it may be.

I don't understand where you're coming from here. Could you clarify it for me?

144 posted on 12/17/2004 4:38:10 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber
I just reread the article and am unable to see what these individuals, led by Repent America Director Michael Marcavage, did that would warrant the charges filed by the district attorney.

three felony counts -- criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation and riot -- and five misdemeanor charges

The only intimidation here is coming from the local homosexual community.

145 posted on 12/17/2004 4:44:50 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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Isn't there something in the Book of Revelations about the persecution of the faithful near the end time?

The "tolerant" liberalsm are REALLY going to end up shooting themselves in their collective foot with this kind of injustice.

146 posted on 12/17/2004 5:04:37 PM PST by FierceDraka ("MTV get off the - MTV get off the - MTV get off the AIR!")
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker; Zeroisanumber

Just a couple from Here

Here's a google image search


147 posted on 12/17/2004 5:08:49 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Sorry, Now you will have to take your eyeballs out and scrub them.


148 posted on 12/17/2004 5:10:40 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: thompsonsjkc
"How many times have homosexuals invaded assemblies, churches, or other events and got away scott free simply because they are homosexuals."

Countless. They entered St. Patricks Cathedral in New York City and threw condoms.

149 posted on 12/17/2004 5:12:10 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Not to be confused with tdadams!!!!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Four people who were arrested during a confrontation at an annual homosexual pride event in Philadelphia could spend up to 47 years in prison for public reading of Scripture,

Huh? This is a joke right?

150 posted on 12/17/2004 5:14:36 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Physicist
You're right - religious fanatics are quite dangerous and have no place in polite society. By fanatics, I mean pushy, arrogant thugs who scream at people to repent or else - not sincere believers who live by the best tenets of their particular faith.

I read the article and thought to myself that the police order to remain outside the perimeter of the march was a reasonable move in the interest of keeping the peace.

But 47 years in prison for a protest? C'mon! The Democratic goons rioting outside the Republican Convention got off scot-free!

151 posted on 12/17/2004 5:16:45 PM PST by FierceDraka ("MTV get off the - MTV get off the - MTV get off the AIR!")
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To: Zeroisanumber
"Why would these protesters be charged with three felonies if all they were doing was meekly sitting outside of the event reading Scripture?>"

My brother had four or five charges against him and he was the VICTIM of a brutual assault and beating by a large group of Teamsters. All of the charges were bogus. Lynne Abraham persecutes people on the right almost anytime she has an opportunity. She is a strong supporter of "homosexual rights."

152 posted on 12/17/2004 5:17:37 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Not to be confused with tdadams!!!!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
Well, that just about does it for me tonight. I was about to have my dinner, but thanks to DirtyHarry, I have lost my appetite.

When I see pictures like that, the first thing that pops into my mind is, "I bet their parents are proud."

Goodnight.

153 posted on 12/17/2004 5:22:35 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
"They had apparently asked for a place at the event and, naturally, had been turned down....

There is an ugly side of anti-gay activism that fills me with duisgust. They say the rudest possible things, then heap scorn on opponents who dare to say rude things back. They get rowdy in public, holding anti-homosexual rallies and burning books and picketing gay funerals, and then they sanctimoniously decry public outbursts of passion by their opponents. It's a bully act, designed to reinforce the idea that only they can legitimize any act of protest; only they can frame the terms of the debate....I hope the cops throw the book at them. "

You do quite a bit of assuming pal -- but apparently you're one of those who would like the Death Penalty for so-called unconstitutional "Hate Crimes" in lieu of "disturbing the peace."

What's the problem? Some nun spank you tender @ss once upon a time?

Btw, shall we assume you also support 47 years in the slammer for the Gay Thugs who stormed St. Patty's a few years back??

154 posted on 12/17/2004 5:32:39 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Zeroisanumber
The protesters were wrong, and luckily only they suffered for their mistakes.

Wrong about what?

Oh and BTW, I consider your friends report as one side of the story and not as persuasive as a video I can watch and listen to myself.

155 posted on 12/17/2004 7:21:10 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: OXENinFLA

I noticed that too,
By his own words, the crime was not protesting, gathering, disagreeing with police, or any other thing but quoting scripture.
hmm...


156 posted on 12/17/2004 8:14:42 PM PST by Apogee
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To: Zeroisanumber
Oftentimes our personal feelings prevent us from seeing right from wrong.

Just because you make decisions based on your fuzzy emotional feelings doesn't necessarily make it so for all of us.

The protesters were wrong, and luckily only they suffered for their mistakes.

That's your opinion. Mind if the rest of us have one?

DirtyHarry's dislike of gays

How in the hell do you know who I like or dislike? Clean your crystal ball because you are way off.

157 posted on 12/17/2004 9:19:33 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Well, that just about does it for me tonight. I was about to have my dinner, but thanks to DirtyHarry, I have lost my appetite.

I apologize O. C. I was attempting to show Zeroisanumber what a pervert pride parade was all about.

All things equal, I'll take Scriptures read through a bullhorn and gospel songs over perverts leading other perverts around with dog leashes any day of the week.

158 posted on 12/17/2004 9:28:05 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: dirtboy

That may be true, but hypccrisy still reigns. How many leftists who disrupted gatherings in the 60's received 47 years behind bars? Answer: NONE

It still boils down to double standards and hypocrisy no matter how you look at it.

But you're right. Lousy reporting has led to another piece telling us only what we peons should know and nothing more.


159 posted on 12/17/2004 9:40:59 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: HouTom
While some pedophiles are homosexuals, that is not true for a majority of homosexuals. If you're going to make a comment, at least make it factually accurate. Don't be like the MSM and "spin" it to fit your argument.

-and factually complete - no sense parroting homosexual agenda memes or framings...

The percentage of homosexuals that are pedophiles is greater than the percentage of heterosexuals that are pedophiles.

Further, ALL homosexuals are objectively disordered and ALL homosexual activity morally depraved.

160 posted on 12/18/2004 1:14:34 AM PST by DBeers
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