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Massive IE phishing exploit discovered
ZDNet ^ | December 17, 2004 | Dan Ilett

Posted on 12/17/2004 7:03:17 AM PST by holymoly

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To: TomGuy
Thats logically unsound. The two systems are built differently, meaning they are not equally vulnerable to attack. Would as many people try to attack it? sure but that does not mean they would succeede as much..

Put it this way, if 10 million people drive a yugo, and another ten million drive a saab (and all 10 million are identical) there will probably be just as many accidents in either case but the mortality rate will not be equal..

41 posted on 12/17/2004 9:31:07 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: wouldilie

Not sure how you check, but if it uses ActiveX ,.......then it is vulnerable. Maybe why some of you stuff only works with it.....


42 posted on 12/17/2004 9:55:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Floyd R Turbo

Right-click on the link and choose "Open in new tab."


44 posted on 12/17/2004 10:08:56 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: N3WBI3
they are not equally vulnerable

True, and I didn't say they were equal. But, they are vunerable. The level of vunerability depends on the level of interest in seeking out, exposing, and then using that vunerability.

If 200 million start using Firefox, for example, and 10 continue to to use IE and the rest (all 12) are Mac users, they aren't going to continue attacking IE. But they will seek methods against Firefox.

It is in the numbers. As I said, 'more bang for the buck.'

Firefox is not extensively vunerable now, because all the potential vunerabilities haven't been exposed, because few hackers are looking at Firefox---yet. Same with Mac's. Same with Linux.

Seven years ago, when Netscape was the premier browser and IE was just a straggler, hackers had little interest in IE. The same is true with virus makers and trojan makers. They design for the type of OS or browser that will spread their evil best--meaning, most extensively.
45 posted on 12/17/2004 10:18:33 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Floyd R Turbo

In Firefox, download the extensions for tabbed browsing. They give you options for making the tabs more usable.

Tabbing takes a bit of getting used to. You might read the help file for tabbed browsing. [I just right click and select 'open in new tab' for news links off of the News/Activism list page.]


46 posted on 12/17/2004 10:24:19 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: TomGuy

"Of course, if today most internet users all switched to Browser X, within a week Browser X would be the one getting all the hackings and viruses and trojans and worms."

Wrong. It's not just a question of popularity and number of users. Microsoft/IE has certain vulnerable spots which other browsers don't have. ActiveX is a security nightmare, for example. The Java-based browser security is much better.


47 posted on 12/17/2004 10:25:39 AM PST by webstersII
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To: frog_jerk_2004

I agree, was a great movie.


48 posted on 12/17/2004 10:27:14 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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49 posted on 12/17/2004 10:29:26 AM PST by mhking
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To: mhking

Nice Icon.


50 posted on 12/17/2004 10:39:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Floyd R Turbo
Try this extension:

QuickTabPrefToggle 0.0.4
Open a new browser window/tab from current url location

I think the default is to open in a new tab.... can still use the right mouse button to get the previously mentioned options.

51 posted on 12/17/2004 10:43:21 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: TomGuy
The level of vunerability depends on the level of interest in seeking out, exposing, and then using that vunerability.

No it does not If I leave the door to my home unlocked is is more vulnerable than if it was locked no matter how many people want it. Can someone get in if its locked? sure there is someone out there. Can everyone get in if its locked? no...

But they will seek methods against Firefox.

Seeking != finding... If one is architected better than the other you will find ewer less vulnerable bugs..

Firefox is not extensively vunerable now, because all the potential vunerabilities haven't been exposed

Firefox is as vulnerable now as it ever will be.. People might not be exploiting those right now but they are there.

You (and all others who think all software is the same) ignore that two systems engineered two different ways are not as vulnerable..

53 posted on 12/17/2004 11:05:20 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: wouldilie
I too use Avant a lot. In many ways I prefer it to Firefox. However I have never had a pop up on Firefox. I do get them occasionally on Avant.
54 posted on 12/18/2004 3:01:20 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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