Posted on 12/16/2004 11:59:33 AM PST by Publius
Republicans announced plans Thursday morning to sue King County over 573 newly discovered ballots that could change the outcome of the closest governor's race in Washington state history.
The county's Canvassing Board voted Wednesday to prepare the 573 absentee ballots for inclusion in the hand recount, over the objections of Republicans who urged the county to investigate the ballots first.
State GOP Chairman Chris Vance said Thursday the party would seek a court order Thursday afternoon in Pierce County, aimed at slowing down the processing of the previously rejected ballots to allow them to be better tracked and verified.
Specifically, the party wants to stop the county from separating the ballots from their outer envelopes, which Vance said would make it far more difficult to determine where the ballots came from, whether they were stored correctly, and why they were not counted previously.
Democrats applauded and Republicans decried the board's decision Wednesday to move forward with assessing the 573 previously rejected ballots. King County is a Democratic stronghold and the newly discovered ballots have the potential to change the outcome of the election.
"I get to vote, I did it right, and it gets to count," said King County Councilman Larry Phillips, whose ballot was among the 573 mistakenly rejected by election workers.
Election workers will verify signatures on the ballots, and the canvassing board will meet again Monday to decide whether to count the ballots that have been verified. The three-member board postponed a decision on what to do with 22 other newly discovered ballots but will consider that Monday as well, said Bobbie Egan, county elections spokeswoman.
Republican Dino Rossi won the Nov. 2 election over Democrat Christine Gregoire by 261 votes in the first count and by 42 after a machine recount. As of Wednesday he had gained 79 votes in the hand recount for a margin of 121.
The canvassing board voted 2-1 to move forward with recanvassing the 573 ballots. King County Election Director Dean Logan and Democratic King County Councilman Dwight Pelz voted for the recanvassing; voting no was Dan Satterberg, chief of staff for Republican King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng.
Satterberg complained that Logan was rushing, and said the board should take more time to figure out the story behind the newly discovered ballots.
"This is a matter of public integrity, public trust," Satterberg told Logan as they met before a row of TV cameras and reporters. "The appearance to the world that's watching is that you're rushing this through."
Logan said King County election workers made a mistake and he wanted to correct it. The absentee ballots were not counted originally because the voters' signatures had not been scanned into the county's computer system. Election workers should have checked the paper files, but instead the ballots were mistakenly rejected. The error was discovered only after Phillips saw his name on a list of rejected absentee ballots and notified Logan.
"The facts are pretty clear there was a discrepancy in the canvassing of these ballots," Logan said. "There is a record that shows these are validly registered voters who did nothing wrong."
State law allows counties to recanvass ballots and correct errors during a recount if there is "an apparent discrepancy or an inconsistency in the returns."
Election workers had found at least 245 of the 573 voters' signatures on paper registration records by Wednesday afternoon. They will continue checking the records and verify the ballots that belong to registered voters. Workers will then take those ballots out of their security envelopes and return them to the board for a final decision on whether they should be counted.
Vance urged the canvassing board to reject the ballots.
"At some point it just lacks credibility that they keep finding ballots," Vance said. "None of these ballots should be counted."
After the canvassing board vote, Phillips retorted, "I don't care what the chairman of the state Republican party has to say. I did my duty as a citizen and he's going to get out the way ... He has a right to have his vote counted and so do I."
State GOP attorneys are considering their options now. If the King County ballots are included in the recount, and they do end up putting Gregoire on top, lawsuits may ensue.
"It doesn't look like I'm going to do any Christmas shopping anytime soon," said Mark Braden, Rossi's chief lawyer, after leaving the canvassing board meeting.
The board delayed a decision on 22 other ballots- 20 absentee and two provisional - found in the side bins of plastic base units in which polling machines sit. All ballots should have been logged on Election Night and returned in a sealed bag to election headquarters, but these 22 apparently weren't. They've been sitting unsecured at various polling places since the election.
The hand recount is expected to finish by Dec. 22, though there's no deadline set in state law. The governor's inauguration is scheduled for Jan. 12.
Meanwhile, two members of the federal Election Assistance Commission arrived in Washington on Wednesday to observe the recount. Kay Stimson, spokeswoman for the commission, said the members wanted to learn about the historically close recount for a report on "best practices" by the states.
Exactly. Remember 2000 and a box of votes was found the night of the election in New Mexico. The republican worker who found it and it turned the election in Gore's favor. The Republican party did not contest them because they were found the day of the election and not 7 weeks later. That's a big difference and leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Nice touch throwing a known politicians name in the mix. I'd be checking the records to make sure there isn't a second voting record with his name on it.
It sounds like they may have been legally-cast ballots from registered voters at a valid polling place. Their votes should not be discarded because COUNTY WORKERS made a stupid mistake.
Secondly, under Washington law, I believe that ballots of any kind postmarked before the voting deadline are valid, and that the date received is not an issue.
Considering the 'rat elector in MN who didn't know how to vote or spell.
It's not "a democrat counting [your] vote." Vote tallies are counted by county elections officials, watched by Democratic and Republican observers.
Hey, maybe the Seattle Times could distribute their Sunday papers by hand counting them? I mean, you know, since machines are so unreliable..
If it mattered, maybe they would.
Is this some kind of public school math? By my calculations, slightly less than 61% would do it.
I'm not so sure I trust the election officials. Things have gotten better, but we all know the stories. A friend of mine lives in a town in central MA that is rather famous for having cast more votes for John Kennedy than there were residents in the city. And the election officials in Chicago really helped him as well.
Is that legal?
<< BS. They were placed there and made to look as if they've been sitting unsecured at various polling places since the election.
Were they? Wow! Amazing!
I have a question, though. If you have evidence implicating election officials in this incredibly felonious act, why haven't you come forward with it? >>
What's this?
A half-smart [Came half-armed to a battle of wits] johnny-come-lately DNC troll?
Ever heard of Modus Operandi, Troll?
"You, "DemocRATS" have been stealing elections for a century -- and Chad and I've been watching.
How old are you pup? Have you ever worked an industry job?
Incorrect. Nothing is discarded in the absentee process in California. Theouter envelopes are sorted and saved for three years.
Which industry? Currently, I write for a software company.
However it "sounds", there is no legitimate chain of custody for those 22 ballots. Too bad.
Secondly, under Washington law, I believe that ballots of any kind postmarked before the voting deadline are valid, and that the date received is not an issue.
Yes, but the deadline is election day for postmarks. Many in our military didn't even get them until AFTER the deadline. Their votes should not be discarded because COUNTY WORKERS made a stupid mistake.
I understand that and agree with what you posted. What specifically did you disagree with? All I am saying is that if they are verified and have been secure since election day then they should count. If they have been unsecured for any amount of time like the 22 found absentee and non-absentee ballots, then they shouldn't be counted. Absentee ballots are not tamper proof or fraud proof.
I know nothing of Washington laws and procedures. I was arguing logic, and using the little I know about these ballots as an example. I understood Politicalities argument to be that ballots should be counted until proven invalid and my argument is that ballots should not be counted until proven valid or verified. This applies to any election.
Oh, and BTW.. Welcome.. (I think)
"ballots should not be counted until proven valid or verified."
They're canvassing them now.
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