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WA Gov. Race: Republicans to Sue King County Over 573 Ballots
KOMO-TV ^ | 16 December 2004

Posted on 12/16/2004 11:59:33 AM PST by Publius

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To: Chad Fairbanks

Exactly. Remember 2000 and a box of votes was found the night of the election in New Mexico. The republican worker who found it and it turned the election in Gore's favor. The Republican party did not contest them because they were found the day of the election and not 7 weeks later. That's a big difference and leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Nice touch throwing a known politicians name in the mix. I'd be checking the records to make sure there isn't a second voting record with his name on it.


101 posted on 12/16/2004 12:57:55 PM PST by MadAnthony1776
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To: Mo1
The whole list 573 of names, addresses and percents was posted by the Seattle Times. Beyond the violation of privacy (I would be livid if I were on that list), I wonder if a little research would bring up some strange coincidences... Same committees, universities, etc. Did you know, the King County Assessor list is available online? Talk about security.. Sheesh!
102 posted on 12/16/2004 12:58:21 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: spudpuppy
I have to admit that I have more faith in machines than a democrat counting my vote.
I do all kinds of things with computers. I've been inside my bank exactly once in the last 6t years. I do everything online or at an ATM. I manage my 401K and IRA via computer. I pay all my bills by computer.
How many times has your bank statement been wrong compared to the number of times you got the wrong change at a store?
103 posted on 12/16/2004 1:00:29 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

It sounds like they may have been legally-cast ballots from registered voters at a valid polling place. Their votes should not be discarded because COUNTY WORKERS made a stupid mistake.

Secondly, under Washington law, I believe that ballots of any kind postmarked before the voting deadline are valid, and that the date received is not an issue.


104 posted on 12/16/2004 1:02:09 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: ProudVet77
I have more faith in machines than a democrat counting my vote

Considering the 'rat elector in MN who didn't know how to vote or spell.

105 posted on 12/16/2004 1:03:57 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: ProudVet77

It's not "a democrat counting [your] vote." Vote tallies are counted by county elections officials, watched by Democratic and Republican observers.


106 posted on 12/16/2004 1:05:53 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: spudpuppy

Hey, maybe the Seattle Times could distribute their Sunday papers by hand counting them? I mean, you know, since machines are so unreliable..


107 posted on 12/16/2004 1:06:14 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Splatter

If it mattered, maybe they would.


108 posted on 12/16/2004 1:08:41 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: hobbes1
... he would have to steal 80% of those 573.

Is this some kind of public school math? By my calculations, slightly less than 61% would do it.

109 posted on 12/16/2004 1:09:13 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: spudpuppy

I'm not so sure I trust the election officials. Things have gotten better, but we all know the stories. A friend of mine lives in a town in central MA that is rather famous for having cast more votes for John Kennedy than there were residents in the city. And the election officials in Chicago really helped him as well.


110 posted on 12/16/2004 1:10:44 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Splatter

Is that legal?


111 posted on 12/16/2004 1:11:15 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Politicalities; Chad Fairbanks

<< BS. They were placed there and made to look as if they've been sitting unsecured at various polling places since the election.

Were they? Wow! Amazing!

I have a question, though. If you have evidence implicating election officials in this incredibly felonious act, why haven't you come forward with it? >>

What's this?

A half-smart [Came half-armed to a battle of wits] johnny-come-lately DNC troll?

Ever heard of Modus Operandi, Troll?

"You, "DemocRATS" have been stealing elections for a century -- and Chad and I've been watching.


112 posted on 12/16/2004 1:11:44 PM PST by Brian Allen (89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89-89)
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To: spudpuppy

How old are you pup? Have you ever worked an industry job?


113 posted on 12/16/2004 1:11:51 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: cherry
I believe it is California where some ballots are just taken out of their envelopes and the ballot thrown in a pile and the envelope discarded

Incorrect. Nothing is discarded in the absentee process in California. Theouter envelopes are sorted and saved for three years.

114 posted on 12/16/2004 1:12:42 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: Splatter

Which industry? Currently, I write for a software company.


115 posted on 12/16/2004 1:13:33 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: spudpuppy
It sounds like they may have been legally-cast ballots from registered voters at a valid polling place. Their votes should not be discarded because COUNTY WORKERS made a stupid mistake.

However it "sounds", there is no legitimate chain of custody for those 22 ballots. Too bad.

Secondly, under Washington law, I believe that ballots of any kind postmarked before the voting deadline are valid, and that the date received is not an issue.

Yes, but the deadline is election day for postmarks. Many in our military didn't even get them until AFTER the deadline. Their votes should not be discarded because COUNTY WORKERS made a stupid mistake.

116 posted on 12/16/2004 1:16:11 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: spudpuppy

I understand that and agree with what you posted. What specifically did you disagree with? All I am saying is that if they are verified and have been secure since election day then they should count. If they have been unsecured for any amount of time like the 22 found absentee and non-absentee ballots, then they shouldn't be counted. Absentee ballots are not tamper proof or fraud proof.

I know nothing of Washington laws and procedures. I was arguing logic, and using the little I know about these ballots as an example. I understood Politicalities argument to be that ballots should be counted until proven invalid and my argument is that ballots should not be counted until proven valid or verified. This applies to any election.


117 posted on 12/16/2004 1:16:17 PM PST by Rad_J
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To: spudpuppy
I am just wondering why you believe hand counting such a wondrous thing.. As a puter hacker you don't have faith in machines? Odd, IMHO.
118 posted on 12/16/2004 1:16:48 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: spudpuppy

Oh, and BTW.. Welcome.. (I think)


119 posted on 12/16/2004 1:18:51 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Rad_J

"ballots should not be counted until proven valid or verified."

They're canvassing them now.


120 posted on 12/16/2004 1:19:17 PM PST by spudpuppy
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