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When (not if) Christianity is outlawed, will they have enough evidence to convict you?
1 posted on 12/16/2004 8:15:23 AM PST by OB1kNOb
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To: OB1kNOb

Dear Editor (Philly Inquirer),

A few days ago, a group of citizens (11 to be exact) were arrested on public property for peacefully talking and demonstrating.

And even though these 11 citizens were verbally abused, harassed and spat upon by a hostile crowd, they remained peaceful and fully cooperated with the police.

Yet they were charged with criminal conspiracy, possession of instruments of crime, reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways.

They are facing up to 47 years in jail each.

Now, in any normal society, the major newspapers of that city would be up in arms over such reckless thrashing of the First Amendment. They would logically come to the conclusion that their entire business (and jobs) are based on the preservation of the First Amendment and any abuse that could be use to silence peaceful citizens could one day be used to silence them.

But that is not how the city of Philadelphia works.

First Amendment "privileges" are now reserved for those who agree with the social policies of the media and of City Hall. Disagreement brings marginality and arrest.

Because the "Philadelphia 11" were evangelical Christians at a homosexual festival.

Not even in the darkest days of "Jim Crow" laws have such power and venom been brought to bear to silence a part of society.

Oh yeah, and the "possession of instruments of crime" - that was a Bible. The "ethnic intimidation" - that is from the newest "victim" category of "sexual orientation" to Pennsylvania's hate crime law where now you can be arrested for talking about the Bible in the wrong company.

And all this happened within walking distance of where the US Constitution was written and signed.

Regards,

2banana


2 posted on 12/16/2004 8:16:50 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: OB1kNOb

Hmm. What's more likely here... a peaceful group just politely trotting out Bible verses... or were they doing more that is not being reported on?

Massive (and easily overturned) miscarriage of justice, or spin doctoring...


3 posted on 12/16/2004 8:17:56 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: OB1kNOb

This is a friggin outrage.


4 posted on 12/16/2004 8:18:44 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: OB1kNOb
The Christians were arrested on October 10 for praying, singing, and reading scripture during an annual “gay pride” event known as “Outfest” in Philadelphia.

I sense that there is more to the story. What are the exact charges?

5 posted on 12/16/2004 8:20:00 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: OB1kNOb

Just yesterday we were notified by the local historical society that we must relocate our Bible study/prayer time off of county property because it was "religious." A local church that has done a Christmas pageant every year as part of the local festivities has been told it will not be allowed to participate next year because its program was too evangelistic! We are busy collecting the information and are about to take a stand. The time is not coming. The time has come.


9 posted on 12/16/2004 8:21:52 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: OB1kNOb

I was born in Tupelo. So was Elvis.


11 posted on 12/16/2004 8:23:32 AM PST by melbell (groovy)
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To: Coleus; ChewedGum; JohnHuang2

ping!


14 posted on 12/16/2004 8:24:00 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: OB1kNOb

Are there any public transcripts out on this yet?


16 posted on 12/16/2004 8:25:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: OB1kNOb

Something is out of joint here. Sounds like some third world country with madeup laws. Got to be more to it.


17 posted on 12/16/2004 8:25:13 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Overlap with Moral Absolutes Ping.

(Since I lost many of the names on the M.A. list, ping me if anyone wants: On/Off/Back On either list.)

More on the protestors at the "Outfest". Check the link in my comment above to a FR thread that has a link to the video.

So - quotes from the Bible are "fighting words", and the perps who are the really bad ones are the ones who had the temerity to actually vocalize words from the Bible.

Is anyone reminded of anything? Like the Third Reich?


18 posted on 12/16/2004 8:25:44 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: OB1kNOb

We have to start recalling/ impeaching these criminal, traitorous judges!!! Does anyone know if there is a process by which this can be done? ANYONE? Seriously! How can we get rid of these idiots?


22 posted on 12/16/2004 8:26:54 AM PST by Syco
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To: OB1kNOb

This is unreal.


24 posted on 12/16/2004 8:26:59 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: OB1kNOb

ethnic intimidation??????????


27 posted on 12/16/2004 8:27:56 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: OB1kNOb
It appears there is a group, which to me seems organized, who seize on these stories and make little snide remarks against Christians.

You know they all somehow come to the same conclusion that these stories are suspect because they are reported by Christians.

I have seen these groups jump on similar stories here on FR before. Almost seems like they notify each other.

28 posted on 12/16/2004 8:28:16 AM PST by yarddog
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To: OB1kNOb

It pretty much is outlawed now. It`s called the infection of liberalism in this country. They were voted out of office November 2nd but for some reason they and our courts still think they are the majority in this country. Only Islam can be promoted according to liberals, much like it is in California where the California legislature mandated that all 8th graders take a 3 week course in Islam and adopt Islamic names. Isn`t that lovely? Your kid comes home one day and tells you his new name is Mohammed. Can you imagine Christianity being mandated ina California public school? The minority liberals would get their liberal press buddies to make pretend they are the majority and make their protests seem like "the country is outraged".


29 posted on 12/16/2004 8:28:26 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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Oh look. Freepers all of a sudden care about free speech and free assembly now that people they like are on the short end of the stick.

Of course they'll be right back hooting and hollering in joy just as soon as cops give protesters they don't like the "wooden shampoo".

They think (I guess you can call it that) that rights can be taken from others without losing their own in the process. The logical disconnect is amusing, to say the least.

Most people on this site have absolutely no desire for a consistent policy applied to everyone. They singularly care about positive outcomes for favored groups.

Well hypocrites you've made your own bed. Now lay in it.

31 posted on 12/16/2004 8:28:33 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: OB1kNOb; newgeezer

If this is a "Godhatesfags" type of group then we may not be getting the whole story.


32 posted on 12/16/2004 8:29:14 AM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: OB1kNOb

I can't believe what I'm reading. What can we do to help these people?


33 posted on 12/16/2004 8:29:33 AM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: OB1kNOb
Enforce the Constitution!!
Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword." -- Mathew 10:34

35 posted on 12/16/2004 8:29:45 AM PST by Mark Felton (We were free because we were Christian. There is no other reason.)
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To: Rockitz

ping


42 posted on 12/16/2004 8:32:29 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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