Posted on 12/16/2004 8:15:22 AM PST by OB1kNOb
Appeal to the Supreme Court last hope for Christians
“First, symbols of Christianity are removed from the public square; now, Christians are facing 47 years in prison because they preached the gospel in the public square. Stalin would be proud,” – Brian Fahling, AFA Center for Law and Policy Senior Trial Attorney.
Tupelo, MS - After a federal appeals court denied an emergency appeal to stop prosecution of 11 Christians on Tuesday, Philadelphia Municipal Court Judge William Austin Meehan ordered four of the Christians to stand trial on three felony (criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation, and riot) and five misdemeanor charges. If convicted, they could face up to 47 years in prison.
The Christians were arrested on October 10 for praying, singing, and reading scripture during an annual “gay pride” event known as “Outfest” in Philadelphia.
Since the federal courts did not intervene to halt the state prosecution, the last route for the Christians would be an appeal to the Supreme Court says the Christians’ attorney Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy.
“First, symbols of Christianity are removed from the public square, now, Christians are facing years in prison because they preached the gospel in the public square. Stalin would be proud,” Fahling said.
The federal appeals court in Philadelphia denied emergency relief despite video footage Fahling calls “undisputed evidence” that shows the Christians cooperating with police and continually being harassed by the Pink Angels, a group of homosexuals organized to impede the gospel message. Philadelphia city prosecutor in the case, Charles Ehrlich, attacked the Christians as “hateful” and referred to preaching the Bible as “fighting words,” the judge agreed.
Charges were dropped against the remaining seven apparently because they were not seen quoting scripture on the videotape.
The Philadelphia case represents another example of discrimination toward Christians,” said Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association national headquarters. “The past month has poured forth cases of Christian persecution seen in the higher education institution, public school systems, and the judicial court system.”
Center for Law and Policy
Contact: Kathryn Hooks 662-844-5036 American Family Association P.O. Drawer 2440 Tupelo, MS 38803 1-662-680-3886
I sure didn't take it that way and I'm sure that most reasonable people didn't either. Its never wrong to try to get the full story rather than just going off half cocked.
If a person does something wrong, then accuse them only of those things and don't make things up to make it sound more sensational. Bluegrass asked reasonable questions: there is a big difference between studying an activity and endorsing it. Bluegrass was only trying to figure out if Kinsley actually participated in the acts. By Jeremiah's logic, Christian researchers that study abortion are guilty of endorsing abortion simply because they researched the subject.
You misread my post. I wasn't referring to you going off half cocked, I was referring to people in general that accept what they're told without verifying it.
I assumed. You posted to me. Thought you were speaking to me.
Have you read about Kinsey and how he got his "information"?
If this is a "Godhatesfags" type of group then we may not be
getting the whole story.
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No... It's actually "GodhatesIslam and therefor changes Islamic
Paradise reward from 72 firm breaste virgins to 72 pissed
off West Virginia lesbians." !!! ;-))
How about a TRADITIONAL protest with many, many people and protest signs with slogans on them. Or would that be too normal for you?
Why not get back to the thread since you've had plenty of time to read what Dr. Reisman has to say about Kinsey and his methodology? What's your take on Kinsey?
Since you were remaining very neutral (kind of) but now you've had the opportunity to get education, let me and anyone else reading this thread know what your conclusion is. I'd really be interested to see where you stand on Kinsey's pedophile-derived "research".
Maybe Calpernia would like to know too.
No, I haven't had the chance yet. I've really never had an opinion on Kinsey one way or another and I admit that I have not done much research on him or his studies.
I actually don't doubt your assertions about Kinsey - I was just pointing out that it is healthy to ask questions like Bluegrass was doing rather than just accepting what someone says. I've personally witnessed pastors at big and small churches repeat urban myths or false anecdotal stories from the pulpit. They didn't mean anything dishonest by it - they just were repeating things they heard at some conference or from friends. They just never bothered to check out the validity of the claims. Singles' ministers are very bad about doing this exact same thing.
These experiences have taught me that even very honorable men can have their facts wrong so it's always a good idea to verify what they say rather than just blindly accept.
I do appreciate your posting a link to back up your statements. I'll check it out. :-)
Bluegrass hasn't logged into FR since this morning Jeremiah.
You're right, what is important is the truth. And in the case of Kinsey, he has developed a repuation as the original expert on sexual behavior. But a close examination does not support this reputation.
wrong!
The kind of people who would get "turned-off" are the kind of people who got us into this anti-Christian mess in the first place.
Let them go to hell!(as they surely will)
Let us pray, or let us have our children and education money back!
No dark secret whatsoever. But can you honestly say that abnormal sexual behavior should not be studied? Some of these abnormal behaviors really are psychological problems that can be treated. If the person can be brought back to normality through therapy or medication, I am all for that! Just because something is wrong doesn't mean it isn't worth researching, primarily for the goal of righting the wrong.
Under your strategy we would just say, "They have cancer? Well, I guess it's inevitable they're going to die. No sense studying it." Geez!
Actually, I haven't had time. I ended up actually having to do some work yesterday (sigh) and have been gone all day today. I'll try to get back to reading it later this weekend. Off to bed now though! : )
Studying pedophilia legitimately is not what Kinsey did.
Mengele also did research. Was that legitimate?
If you want to remain either ignorant, or stir up trouble by pretending that you are neutral, that's your business. But you're transparent, you're no more conservative than I am from Kentucky.
This is a freedom-of-speech and freedom-of-association issue, pure and simple.
...and freedom of assembly.
Well, you've had plenty of time to study up on Kinsey, and plenty of time to post comments on FR.
What's your verdict? You tacitly supported him by claiming neutrality, now what do you have to say about him?
Being "gay" is a religion based on peversion and sickness. What did you think it was?
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