Posted on 12/15/2004 11:31:58 AM PST by reagankid
I had the recent displeasure of appearing before the local chapter of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, many if not most of whose members appeared to me to be committed atheists.
The forum was supposed to consider "A candidate's religion. When does it matter?" But the discussion quickly disintegrated into an ugly attack on religion by the godless majority in the room.
By the time the evening was over, I knew how the Christians felt when they were fed to the lions.
Now, I'm no holy roller. I do not expect everyone to share my religious faith. I respect the right of others not to believe in a supreme being.
But what offends me is the contempt that the atheist minority has for the overwhelming majority of us who do believe in God. What angers me is that the atheist minority is waging an unholy war against God, against religion, in communities throughout the once-fair land.
Indeed, California, the modern day Babylon, is ground zero in the war on religion.
In San Diego, for instance, atheists are trying to remove a cross that has stood atop publicly owned Mount Soledad for a half-century, a memorial to those who fought in this nation's service in the two World Wars and the Korean War.
The next thing we know, the ungodly element will demand that crosses and other religious symbols be removed from the graves of the war dead buried at military cemeteries in San Diego administered by the federal government.
Meanwhile, up the road in Los Angeles, the county's Board of Supervisors voted recently to remove a tiny cross from the county seal. The supervisors just didn't think it appropriate for the government to officially endorse religion.
Of course, if they follow their all-too-politically-correct thinking to its illogical conclusion, then they need to change the name of the county. For the reference to "Angeles" obviously has religious overtones.
Then there's the Sacramento atheist who sued the Elk Grove Unified School District on grounds that it was imposing religion upon his daughter (to which he had no custody rights) by having students recite the Pledge of Allegiance, including the phrase, "One nation under God."
It so happens that the same litigious atheist had previously pursued an unsuccessful lawsuit seeking to have the phrase "in God we trust" removed from the nation's currency.
The Christmas season brings out the very worst in the atheist element and their unholy allies, like Americans United for Separation of Church and State, like the American Civil Liberties Union.
Not only have they bullied public entities into forgoing Christmas trees, banning nativity scenes, eschewing Christmas carols, they have made similar anti-Christmas inroads with private entities.
Indeed, Target is not allowing the Salvation Army to set up outside its stores this holiday season. Nor will it allow any references to Christmas in its stores.
Well, they'll never get another dollar from yours truly. And neither will Sears and other retailers who've chosen to side with the anti-Christian minority in this country over the 85 percent of us, according to polls, who consider ourselves Christians.
And the hostility to Christianity, the antipathy for Christmas, is not confined to the merchant community. It also is rampant throughout the popular culture.
Indeed, once again this year, Time and Newsweek have featured Christmas-themed cover stories (which are always among their best-selling issues).
But the covers are just a facade. Go on the Internet. Download the Newsweek Christmas story (it will appear on MSNBC's Web site). Scroll to the bottom of the article headlined: "Religion: The Birth of Jesus."
That's where you'll see what the editors and writers really think about the Christmas story, about Christianity in general. Page 4: "An Outlandish Message." Page 6: "Dubious on Almost Every Score." Page 7: "A Religion of Perplexing Contradictions."
It's the same thing in Hollywood. The studios no longer make movies like "King of Kings," the "Greatest Story Ever Told" or "Jesus of Nazareth."
Instead, they make films like "Dogma," in which Jesus is sacrilegiously portrayed as some sort of cartoonish figure – "Buddy Christ" – winking and giving a Bill Clinton-like thumbs-up.
I accept that a minority of Americans do not believe that Jesus was the son of the God. I accept that a smaller minority of Americans do not believe in God, period.
All I ask is that nonbelievers stop trying to impose their will upon the majority of us who believe, as the Apostle John wrote two millennia ago, that "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perkins can be reached via e-mail at joseph.perkins@uniontrib.com.
> yet athiests demand that the various levels of government promote the SOLE, SPECIFIC religion of Atheism 24/7/365
No, they don't. Your hyperbole is entertaining, but it's in error. Not mentioning God and even removing references to God is not endorsing atheism. Replacing "Under God" with "There is no God"... THAT would be endorsing atheism.
> being a Christian or Jew in Saudi Arabia today ...
That would suck. However, imagine being an animist or some other pagan in Saudi Arabia today. Oh, wait, you don't have to imagine; you can just look and see what the Islamists do to pagans in Chad and Sudan. Christians and Jews have it infinitely better in Muslim lands than pagans do, just as Jews - as maltreated and hated as they were - had it easier in medieval Europe than the local pagans did.
Monotheisms *really* don't like competition.
The Islamists have a long list of who they want to see dead. I think they just go after which ever group they can easily get their hands on like what's going on in the Sudan. The Nazis had a long list of people who were going to be "evacuated". Unfortunately for the Jews they were number one on the Nazi hit list and a large number were living right where Hitler wanted his lebensraum.
You seem to be missing the content and point of the article.
To me, when he said he appeared before the committee, I didn't think he was on assignment, that is why I asked, you originally, then him...what he expected.
I hope you found the article interesting and the authors points valid.
Tolerance, perhaps?
None of this offends me, I just find it sad sometimes when old customs fade away, but that is the way of the world.
From an organisation with that name?
That name isn't so bad. If there was truth in labeling they'd call themselves the "Atheistic Taliban"
The united part sort of said to me that they weren't very tolerant.
And fade away the will if the majority of Americans continue to let a small fragment of our society orient to the majority of us the false premise of the separation of church and state.
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I think the motives of this group and the motives of the writers of the Constitution are completely different. This group's motive is to remove the association between government and religion. They want to diminish the influence of conservative members of every religious group, particularly Christians. They don't want to be reminded that the foundational principles of this national are profoundly rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
The Constitution's writers' motives was to protect the America from the corrupting marriage of nation and church that was common in Europe. Members of certain religious groups were persecuted depending on the religion of the Monarch. Evidence of the intent of the founders to honor and recognize God Almighty is found in government documents, on public buildings, on currency, and in their personal correspondence.
This group United for the Separation of Church and State seem to really be promoting abandonment of Judeo-Christian principles for an amoral paradigm. America will cease to be great when she ceases to be good. In fact she will cease to be "America" with all the connotations associated with the name. They state that will result from this "separation" will be something entirely different from the one the Constitution was written to protect.
Excellent post and insight!
"..but what truly gets to me is the ridicule."
Well, this is when it is important to remember that no one can serve two masters. If when you are ridiculed you respond a different way then you would if not ridiculed, you have just let man instead of God be your master, and this is the objective of those ridiculing you. They are attempting to change your behavior and be your master. You honor, serve and make Him Lord by doing what He desires INSPITE of what everyone else is trying to get you do, like shut up, go away and just die.
My real question is when are CHRISTIANS going to finally open their eyes and stand up to fight for this nation that was founded on Christianity and the gospel of Jesus Christ?
Sometimes I wonder if Christianity's greatest enemies aren't behind the pulpit pleading "can't we all just get along???"
Fact is, there is no middle ground with evil. And Anti-Chrst[ian] evil it is!!
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> this nation that was founded on Christianity and the gospel of Jesus Christ?
I'm *still* waiting for someone to post any part of the Constitution that supports that. The 1st Ammendment alone is massively anti-10 Commandments.
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