Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Doctors: Yushchenko Poisoned With Dioxin
Yahoo.com ^ | 11 Dec 04 | SA

Posted on 12/11/2004 6:49:03 AM PST by Ginifer

VIENNA, Austria - The mysterious illness of Ukrainian opposition leader and presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko was caused by dioxin poisoning that was likely intentional, doctors said Saturday.

Yushchenko has accused Ukrainian authorities of trying to poison him in the runup to a presidential vote marred by fraud. Ukraine's Supreme Court voided the outcome of that vote, which Yushchenko lost to Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych, and a rerun of the ballot is slated for Dec. 26.

Yushchenko first fell ill in September and was rushed to the Vienna hospital. He resumed campaigning later in the month but with a pockmarked and badly disfigured face.

He returned to the hospital later in September for further treatment and checked in for a third time Friday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: attemptedmurder; conspiracy; dioxin; kgb; poison; putin; ukraine; yushchenko
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160 ... 261-280 next last
To: LibertyRocks; MeekOneGOP
Easy - the sickness followed a banquet which is why many thought it was poisoned food. They just looked at the menu being served.

I still don't think the Russians tried to assassinate Yushchenko because using dioxin to kill is too clumsy and easily detectable.

The Russians would not poison with something any first year bio-chemist would find.

For example the rat poison warfarin (a blood thinner) is almost undetectable and some say it was used to bump off Stalin and make it look like a stroke.

It would seem unlikely that Russia would be so clumsy in using such an easily detectable chemical to kill Viktor Yushchenko.

121 posted on 12/11/2004 4:06:37 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: Destro

Look, the suspects in the crime are either A) elements of the Russian government or B) elements of the Ukranian government which the government of Russia clearly supports in the face of massive vote fraud on their part. Either way, the same kind of people are scared of Yushchenko for some reason.


122 posted on 12/11/2004 4:33:44 PM PST by Mr.Clark (From the darkness....I shall come)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: Mr.Clark
A rogue amateur element for sure if deliberate poisoning.
123 posted on 12/11/2004 4:34:51 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 122 | View Replies]

To: Destro
It would seem unlikely that Russia would be so clumsy in using such an easily detectable chemical to kill Viktor Yushchenko.

So then, where did the dioxin come from?

124 posted on 12/11/2004 4:34:54 PM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: Dog Gone

The speculation, as I heard it few days ago, was that it was at a "state dinner" with a Russian diplomat that Yuschenko was poisoned, it is believed. I didn't hear all the details of the meeting or who it was with. Just that it was a Russian diplomat who hosted the dinner.


125 posted on 12/11/2004 4:44:19 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT - B.F)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: infidel29; Dog Gone; FreeReign
Like I said above I find it hard to buy that the Russians would poison with something any first year bio-chemist would find.

For example the rat poison warfarin (a blood thinner) is almost undetectable and some say it was used to bump off Stalin and make it look like a stroke.

It would seem unlikely that Russia would be so clumsy in hosting a dinner and then at that dinner use such an easily detectable chemical to kill its guest Viktor Yushchenko.

126 posted on 12/11/2004 4:53:53 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies]

To: Destro; LibertyRocks
Okay. It appears you're convinced that Yanukovych and Putin are clean.

The Russians/Soviets have a history of poisoning their opponents and KGB boy Putin actively campaigned for Yanukovych, that is undisputed. Have you another theory as to Yushchenko's illness?


127 posted on 12/11/2004 4:55:42 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: infidel29; Dog Gone; FreeReign

PS: The reason dioxin was not detected until now was that Yushchenko refused a biopsy. The sample would have been taken from his face and he did not want to do it for cosmetic reasons (stitches and bandaid cover on face) That also is a little odd seeing as how he had little to protect cosmeticaly speaking because of the rash.


128 posted on 12/11/2004 4:56:36 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies]

To: MeekOneGOP; LibertyRocks
The Russians/Soviets have a history of poisoning their opponents and KGB boy Putin actively campaigned for Yanukovych, that is undisputed. Have you another theory as to Yushchenko's illness?

I agree 100% In fact did not the Russians kill al-Qaeda's hero Khattab through the use of a poison letter?

But to use dioxin to kill is frankly insane. As a tool of assasination it is not only easily detectable in the body (assumtion being that the killers want to leave no trace), and requires a heavy dose (you want to kill with small doses) and death is not even assured (unless you swallow maybe a gallon).

I understand why the Russians are suspects but would you use this chemical to kill if you have the poison arsenal the Russians have?

129 posted on 12/11/2004 5:01:26 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | View Replies]

To: Destro
So then, where did the dioxin come from?

It would seem unlikely that Russia would be so clumsy in hosting a dinner and then at that dinner use such an easily detectable chemical to kill its guest Viktor Yushchenko.

Please, you didn't answer the question. Where did the dioxin come from if not the Russians and Yanukovych?

130 posted on 12/11/2004 5:03:34 PM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: FreeReign

No one knows, of course. Dioxin is everywhere in the enviornemnt.


131 posted on 12/11/2004 5:06:38 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 130 | View Replies]

To: Destro

Your post #131 contradicts your post #126. Do you know why?

132 posted on 12/11/2004 5:13:34 PM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 131 | View Replies]

To: Old Professer
They are probably referring to Digitalis

Digitalis (DIJ'ih-TAL'is) is also known as digoxin (di-JOKS'in) and digitoxin (dij"ih-TOKS'in). It's a drug that strengthens the contraction of the heart muscle, slows the heart rate and helps eliminate fluid from body tissues. It's often used to treat congestive heart failure and is also used to treat certain arrhythmias (ah-RITH'me-ahz).

Digitalis has been described in medical literature for over 200 years. It's derived from the foxglove plant.

133 posted on 12/11/2004 5:15:00 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: FreeReign
Dioxin in the amounts the news is saying he had would not be found normally in the environment.

Arsenic is also found naturally in the enviornment - appleseeds for example will kill you if you digest enough.

So it would have to be an extreme natural situation.

134 posted on 12/11/2004 5:18:28 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: Destro; LibertyRocks
After hearing Oliver North just now on FOX News, it appears that regardless of WHO did the dioxin poisoning, that Yushchenko will likely see an early end to his life.

He will likely die of cancer or something because of this. Diabetes is another possible outcome.

Deadly doses of Dioxin would be a big amount is what I heard.

So what we have is that it was likely Barney Fife tried to pull this off.


135 posted on 12/11/2004 5:29:25 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]

To: Destro
Dioxin in the amounts the news is saying he had would not be found normally in the environment.

Yes. So he ingested an unnaturally high concentration of dioxin at a Russian hosted dinner. These are the same Russians who openly and desperately wanted Yushchenko to lose.

I can think of no other conclusion to want happened than the obvious one. Neither can you.

136 posted on 12/11/2004 5:32:14 PM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies]

To: MeekOneGOP

I heard Ollie. That was sad.

Love your Barney Fife analogy.


137 posted on 12/11/2004 5:33:00 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: Blood of Tyrants
Dig toxicity can indeed kill you. Heart rhythm disturbances are common.

It looks like Yuschenko was very lucky.
138 posted on 12/11/2004 5:35:17 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: Destro; MeekOneGOP; LibertyRocks
Easy - the sickness followed a banquet which is why many thought it was poisoned food. They just looked at the menu being served.

Wow destro. It's so LUCKY that no else got a bite of that poison fish at the BANQUET.

Don't be silly destro. No one else was sick.

139 posted on 12/11/2004 5:42:46 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: texasflower; MeekOneGOP; FreeReign
I liked his Barney Fife analogy as well.

Does that mean you are accepting of the fact that if this was an attempt on his like that it was at least not done by the Russians who are anything but Fife like when it comes to killing people with poisons?

140 posted on 12/11/2004 5:45:03 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160 ... 261-280 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson