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Pres. Bush Vote Total Now Exceeds 62 Million (exceeding all pre-election estimates).
SOS websites | 12/10/2004 | calreaganfan

Posted on 12/10/2004 5:24:36 PM PST by calreaganfan

The conventional wisdom of the political punditry has been proven wrong again. A huge national voter turnout was thought to favor the Democrat candidate, but Pres. Bush's national popular vote count from the Nov. 2, 2004 general election has now exceeded 62 million votes. As of 12/10/04, Pres. Bush has received 62,019,003 votes. The states of NY and PA have certified their official results in the past two days which pushed Pres. Bush's vote count over the 62 million mark. CA will certify its results tomorrow, but almost all CA votes are already included in the Bush total (by obtaining vote counts from CA county websites). Only MN, ME and a few other states have yet to certify their official results.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushvictory; electionreturns; mediawingofthednc; napalminthemorning; partyofthehindparts; popularvote; rathergate
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To: calreaganfan
>>>>... you're throwing around insults out of desperation.

There's nothing desperate about telling the truth. Let's review the highlights of some posts you aimed at me.

>>>>It's clear now that you're actually off your rocker.

>>>>Your continuing implications to the contrary are positively Stalinist.

>>>>I'm beginning to think you're more of a "Flim-Flam Man" than a "Reagan Man".

>>>>This whole thing got started because "Reagan Man" reacted in a defensive and irrational manner to the simple fact that Pres.

>>>>The pompous "Reagan Man"...

Rational folks call those remarks, ad hominem responses, as in personal attacks. You lost the argument about Reagan v Bush43. Now you're mischaracterizing your own rhetoric, like you never said what you said. You're digging that hole deeper and deeper. Carry on.

201 posted on 12/12/2004 2:26:52 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Reagan Man

"There's nothing desperate about telling the truth."

So then why are you avoiding the question? You've stated numerous times that my factual statements were "deadwrong" [sic] and made other similar comments. I've asked you many times to point out EXACTLY which statements that I made about Pres. Bush's victory are not accurate. You've repeatedly refused to answer. So again, which of the three statements below is not accurate?

All the vote count numbers that I've posted have been completely accurate as well as the factual statements that 1) Pres. Bush obliterated Reagan's popular vote record; 2) Pres. Bush inspired an historic voter turnout (the largest EVER since the voting rules were changed in 1972); and 3) Pres. Bush helped to achieve Republican Party victories that no GOP President had accomplished since the 1920s.


202 posted on 12/12/2004 2:33:50 PM PST by calreaganfan
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To: calreaganfan
That hole is getting very deep. Look. Don't try and change the subject, again. In case you haven't noticed, we've moved on. YOU lost that argument.

The issue on the table right now, are your ad hominem attacks aimed at me and your subsequent hypocracy. An apology would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.

203 posted on 12/12/2004 2:45:58 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Reagan Man

"That hole is getting very deep. Look. Don't try and change the subject, again."

LOL! It's obvious now that everything you've posted on this thread has been a bag of hot air. You've stated repeatedly that my statements about Pres. Bush's victory are "deadwrong" [sic] and made other similar assertions, but you've yet to point out EXACTLY which statement about Pres. Bush's victory is not accurate. This has been THE subject of this thread. So again, which of the following statements about Pres. Bush's victory is not correct?

All the vote count numbers that I've posted have been completely accurate as well as the factual statements that 1) Pres. Bush obliterated Reagan's popular vote record; 2) Pres. Bush inspired an historic voter turnout (the largest EVER since the voting rules were changed in 1972); and 3) Pres. Bush helped to achieve Republican Party victories that no GOP President had accomplished since the 1920s.


204 posted on 12/12/2004 2:53:03 PM PST by calreaganfan
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To: calreaganfan
>>>>It's obvious now that everything you've posted on this thread has been a bag of hot air.

According to you. LOL You want the equivalent of a golf "mulligan". You want to debate the same issue over again. Get over it already. You lost that debate. In fact, you had your head handed to you. I'm not going to give you an opportunity to cover the same ground again and listen to more of your irrational responses and ad hominem attacks. Reagan's legacy doesn't deserve such treatment and I've had enough of your juvenile crapola.

Either apologize, or be move along.

205 posted on 12/12/2004 3:06:10 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Reagan Man

"I'm not going to give you an opportunity to cover the same ground again"

I've asked you repeatedly throughout this thread to point which SPECIFIC statement I made about Pres. Bush's victory is "deadwrong" [sic]. You've NEVER answered the question. The reason is obvious. It's because everything I've stated about Pres. Bush's victory has been accurate. All your sputtering and spewing has been for nought.

All the vote count numbers that I've posted have been completely accurate as well as the factual statements that 1) Pres. Bush obliterated Reagan's popular vote record; 2) Pres. Bush inspired an historic voter turnout (the largest EVER since the voting rules were changed in 1972); and 3) Pres. Bush helped to achieve Republican Party victories that no GOP President had accomplished since the 1920s.


206 posted on 12/12/2004 3:12:47 PM PST by calreaganfan
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To: calreaganfan

So Kerry is at 59,007,869?

I guess that the London newspaper that printed the November 3, 2004 headline "How Could 59 Million Americans Be So Stupid?" was correct after all. : )


207 posted on 12/13/2004 11:42:35 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: calreaganfan

I checked out the CA Secretary of State's site, and they have lower numbers for both Bush and Kerry. See http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/pres/00.htm#cty

What's your source?


208 posted on 12/13/2004 2:49:47 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: calreaganfan

In RI, I also get lower numbers for Bush and Kerry: http://www.elections.ri.gov/2004GE/TopTicket.htm


209 posted on 12/13/2004 3:00:30 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

"I checked out the CA Secretary of State's site, and they have lower numbers for both Bush and Kerry. See http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/pres/00.htm#cty

What's your source?"

My source is the individual CA county websites. If you check out the Imperial, Lake and Butte County websites, you can obtain add'l Bush & Kerry votes that are not on CA SOS website. In fact, the CA SOS stopped updating the state website on the evening of Dec 6.


210 posted on 12/13/2004 10:21:43 PM PST by calreaganfan
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To: AuH2ORepublican

The CA SOS posted the final results today. The final vote totals are Bush: 5,509,826; Kerry: 6,745,845. Pres. Bush lost CA by exactly 10% (44.4%-54.4%). Here's the link:

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/sov/2004_general/formatted_pres_detail.pdf


211 posted on 12/13/2004 10:46:26 PM PST by calreaganfan
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To: AuH2ORepublican

"In RI, I also get lower numbers for Bush and Kerry"

Check out the link below to the RI Board of Elections website. Make sure you look at the far right column which includes both "Polling Place" and "Mail" ballots:

http://www.electionri.com/Results/TopTicket.htm


212 posted on 12/14/2004 12:07:47 AM PST by calreaganfan
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To: goldstategop
True... but this election will be seen as the Democrats high-water mark. They had an unprecented turnout, they stoked up the anti-Bush fervor, spent millions and had a friendly mainstream media in their corner - and they still LOST.

What scares me is how good he did, had the press simply been neutral it would have amounted to a landslide.

213 posted on 12/14/2004 12:42:35 AM PST by Outraged (Time to put pressure on the party)
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To: goldstategop

The nation has a much larger voting population than in 1984. Too bad Reagan did not have a solid republican legislature to work with, we might be doing without much of the nonsense we have now (Depts. of Ed and Energy, Legal Services Administration, Corp for Public Broadcasting, etc.).


214 posted on 12/14/2004 4:12:31 AM PST by Meldrim
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To: calreaganfan

Thanks for the info. I see you were ahead of the Secretary of State sites!

"Pres. Bush lost CA by exactly 10% (44.4%-54.4%)."

Actually, when one divides the Kerry and Bush votes by the total number of votes cast for candidates (including write-ins), Kerry got 54.31% and Bush 44.36% in CA, so Kerry won the state by 9.95%.

BTW, you should double-check your NM numbers, since I think you may have inverted some numbers (the official site has Bush at 376,930 and Kerry at 370,942).


215 posted on 12/14/2004 7:11:53 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: calreaganfan

"Make sure you look at the far right column which includes both "Polling Place" and "Mail" ballots"



Gotcha. I was looking at the "polling place" column. Thanks again.


216 posted on 12/14/2004 7:18:04 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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