Posted on 12/10/2004 11:36:01 AM PST by DBeers
I agree 100% with your comments and IMHO you are not a bleeding heart liberal!
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Many thanks. It's too bad that such a beautiful flower became linked to liberals. I was trying to think of some appropriate epithet for those people, but "liberal" was the worst I could think of, lol.
Believe it or not, there is a deeper place for human experience than the sex organ. That's what I'm referring to. I'm not saying sexual experience without a lifelong commitment is miserable sex. I'm saying that even a rousing fireworks sexual experience doesn't touch the core of the heart. Especially if it is outside the confines of lifelong etc.
There is a saying I read somewhere, goes something like this: "After sex, even animals are sad."
It's a question of identity. I am convinced, through years of study, practice, and experience, that my identity is eternal soul; that the body is merely a vehicle, and that this can be realized - experienced, while still in the material tabernacle. The smallest, slightest experience of spiritual identity (in Sanskrit called "brahmananda") is so far greater than anything the sex organ or any other bodily pleasure has to offer that even the most extraordinary sexual experience becomes pale and more or less uninteresting in comparison.
One thing that does a huge disservice to kids is to give them moral permission to have sex before marriage. Notwithstanding religious belief, kids have absolutely NO BUSINESS having sex. They are not equipped to deal with consequences AT ALL. They can't deal with pregnancy, or STD's, or the emotional fallout from it. They simply do not know what they're getting into, and more often than not they do it for the wrong reasons knowing full well that in 99% of the cases, their relationships will not last.
Kids think that if they don't act like adults, they're not "mature". They don't want to cut themselves the slack that they simply aren't mature enough for these kinds of things... If you're fifteen and you decide sex isn't for you at this point in life, it doesn't make you a baby or a prude. A lot of people don't get that. I didn't get that for a long time. Happily I did in time to commit myself to chastity without having had intercourse.
But the reason adults don't send this message, is because many of them are so immature themselves, they don't believe it...
Right on target. Moral values should be taught by our parents. Unfortunately, too many parents don't believe or don't work on proactive encouragement to discourage bad behavior.
"My comment sounded really arrogant!"
I didn't take it that way.
"I am interested in your quote file. Mine is random, just stuff I find here and there."
Mine, too. Whenever I run across something that motivates me to open the file and paste it in.
"I am singularly uneducated, so things that may be really obvious and well known are astonishing to me."
I am medium-well educated, and it happens to me. I think it's part of the human condition.
"To quote Billy Crystal..."
Not to quibble, but that's "Women need a reason to have sex; men just need a place."
GL ""Sexual attraction is like duct tape. It sticks really well the first time, but if you peel it off it doesn't stick so well the next time. After five or six go 'rounds, it hardly sticks at all...""
MB "Well, I can see that you are still stuck at the emotional level of a fourteen year old."
I think what gridlock meant was that sexual attraction alone is insufficient to sustain a long-term relationship.
"Well, "Gridlock," is still wrong.
Sexual attraction is still high over here, after many years of marriage and several kids later. Can you imagine being single and reading that? Not much of a recommendation for marriage."
Surely a marriage such as yours is not based on sexual attraction ***alone***. Surely it is founded on love and mutual respect as well, isn't it?
What gridlock seems to be saying is that the love and mutual respect are *necessary,* that sexual attraction ***alone*** is inadequate to sustain a long-term relationship.
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Self respect bump.
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Thanks for the ping, Victoria. That's a great post of yours.
I've enjoyed reading both of your posts.
You both share a lot in common.
LisaMalia: from reading MBombadier's posts I don't think she's a bleeding heart liberal.
God bless both of you and Merry Christmas.
Luckily, I have a strong curiosity and always want to learn. That's why I love FR!
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