Posted on 12/08/2004 4:15:51 PM PST by CHARLITE
Poll: Over 50% of Germans equate IDF with Nazis www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/004205.php
It should be a major goal of German policy -- and that of all intelligent and morally aware Germans -- to undo this travesty. Never mind that the Israeli army has been, if anything, far too delicate and magnanimous in its behavior, and has again and again taken unnecessary casualties (as when it so often has refrained from firing on suspicious enemies who, whether women or teenagers, have turned out to be terrorists), or as in Jenin, where the failure to bomb from the air, and to risk the lives of Reservists, led to unnecessary Israeli casualties. (One hopes that in this respect, the American army will never model itself on the Israelis, and use its superior technology whenever it can -- to protect its own troops, rather than worry overmuch about the enemy). And never mind what this says about German understanding of exactly how the German army -- not the S.S., not the Gestapo, but the regular army -- so often behaved.
No, the main problem here is that this horrifying statistic shows just how successful the effort, in the first place by pro-Arab and pro-Muslim forces, to dominate much of the German -- and European -- media. The BBC, Agence France Presse (which still refuses to fire those involved in the "Mohammad Dura" fabrication), The Guardian, RFI (even with Alain Menargues having been fired for his too-obvious antisemitism), have all contributed to a climate, pushed by the Euro-Arab dialogue boys behind the scenes, in which two pre-existing mental conditions, or pathologies, which by now overlap, have been appealed to, fanned, and exploited for the purposes of preventing Europeans from seeing where the real danger comes from. For it is not mighty Israel that is slowly taking over Europe. It is not the United States, so inarticulate, so maladroit in some ways, yet so good-hearted and generous, and to be forgiven because again and again it has proven right in its foreign policies, and in two world wars and one Cold War, has played a decisive role in protecting Western Europe, and in liberating Eastern Europe. However much one longs for a more fluent presentation, however much one might wish American diplomats to have a little more Talleyrand, and a little less Fred Flintstone, in their presentation, American policy has been far more correct, even in the folly, as it now is, of the American "Light-Unto-the-Muslim-Nations Project in Iraq.
Antisemitism and anti-Americanism are deplorable wherever these pathologies are to be found; in Germany they are -- given history -- absolutely intolerable and unacceptable. And that is why every thinking German -- Marian Donhoff and her generation of old-fashioned anti-Nazi liberals have gone, and they do not seem to have been replaced with a sufficient number of younger Germans. Well, they had better appear, and soon.
Because Germany -- not the Germany of Adolf Hitler, but another Germany (let's stick with Heine, Goethe, Lichtenberg, and Karl Kraus for the moment)is just as much in danger of being islamized as is France, or Holland, or England.
And misrepresentation of the relentless Jihad agaainst Israel, and the completely false image of Israel that the European media have presented, are part of the softening-up process which keeps people from understanding not only the opposition to the tiny Infidel state of Israel, but the more general plans, as set out in Qur'an and hadith and sira, for the conquest of the world, through the final subjugation of all non-Muslims. It sounds fantastic, and it is fantastic -- but isn't what is happening all over Western Europe at the moment, with its Muslim populations, something scarcely believable? And who, a few decades ago, would have predicted it?
Well, Bat Ye'or did. And Charles Dufourcq did. And so did anyone who truly undertsood Islam, and Jihad, and dhimmitude.
No time to waste. So here's the task: take back the German media. Report fairly on Israel, and on the United States, second only to Israel in the misreporting it has to endure (but the United States is powerful, and not yet surrounded by mortal enemies, and can withstand such gross injustices in the world media a bit better, for a lot longer, than tiny Israel can). And start doing something about the primitive belief-system which has so much in common with certain other belief-systems.
If you are German, or know someone in Germany, then help the cause. Read, and then translate, and then distribute, the brilliant essay of Ibn Warraq which describes fourteen features which distinguish Fascism as a belief-system, and then describes how Islam exhibits precisely the same features.
You can find the essay at www.secularislam.org Or, you can simply google "Ibn Warraq" and "Islam" and "Fascism."
You may be too young to have joined the White Rose in Munich. Your parents or grandparents may not have been heroes -- indeed, they may have done things you prefer not to look into too closely. But at the very least, you can preserve not only Germany, but the rest of Europe, by making sure that as many people as possible understand Islam as a belief-system -- and not what those who conduct those evenings of smiling Taqiyya and Tu Quoque would have you believe.
That's HUGH!
100% of rational people associate Nazis with Germans.
Well said.
Do you think is fair it ignore the Democrats and secular left? What kind of poll is it that excludes such an impotent (er...I mean, important) part of the world population.
What do you call people so hard-headed they believe this kind of thing? .... Germans!!
Hugh is the best when it comes to exposing Islam!
65% of Germans also believe that Gore won in 2000..
BUMP!
My dad told me that when someone acuses another of something, usually the acuser is the guilty one. So, lets see here:
1) Germans calling Jews Nazis = Germans are still Nazis (big surprise; also, not all Germans are Nazis, just as not all Germans used to be Nazis.
2) Vast Right-wing conspiracy = the left has a conspiracy, easily seen in the media (now, its more likely they are just so biased that they happen to think the same way, but its more fun saying its a conspiracy.
3) Conservatives are rascists = the left is the party that makes descisions based on race and skin color.
I could go on, but my post would become really irrelevant to this thread.
P.S. Im a VERY VERY VERY big fan of Ayn Rand, and my English teacher isnt too crazy about it.
"OVER 50% OF GERMANS ARE IGNORANT MORONS"
"OVER 50% OF GERMANS ARE IGNORANT MORONS"
"And never mind what this says about German understanding of exactly how the German army -- not the S.S., not the Gestapo, but the regular army -- so often behaved."
By the 1960s, regarding the Holocaust, German school textbooks stated that "anti-Jewish measures were intensified." And a popular German politician once stated that the Waffen SS "were soldiers, like the others."
Reinhard Gehlen, first director of German BND was Nazi, Bertelsmann, purveyor of propaganda books for Wehrmacht remained in publishing business, and Nazi professors in Heidelberg University were allowed to teach after the war.
Denazification of Germany was a joke. On us.
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
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