Posted on 12/08/2004 3:28:15 PM PST by yonif
Islamic terrorism is based on Islam as revealed through the Quran... And, he added, There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism, which is a totalitarian construct.
According to Tefft, the Quran enjoins Muslims to believe that the whole world should be governed by the principles of Islam, an expansionist religion that has historically grown through conquest.
Documented here:
Radical Islam's 'plan' to take over America - Arab-American author outlines secret 20-year strategy to undermine country
The Islamic States of America?
Misunderstanding the Enemy: the Islamic Threat and the U.S. Media
CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror
An Open Letter to Islamic Organizations in America
--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
Your reading of the caliphate drive is wishful thinking.
Ping
Please clarify.
Whom do you wish me to poll?
And why?
Peaceful Islamic Bump /sarcasm
I fall into the be killed column. However, I willnot go without a fight.
First Islam must be declared an enemy cult and a danger to the US Constitution. It's 'religious' protected status must be done away with. Once that happens, all mosques would be places where sedition is promoted ,and all those who call themselves Islamic, would be immediately be in violation of the law.
The non-citizen Islamics should then be found, put on military transports, and deported immediately.
US citizens, unless they publicly renounce their adherence to the enemy cult, should be interned like the Japanese were in WW2. Those who refuse to renounce Islam should join the illegals in deportation.
NO- and I mean NO individual identifying themselves as Muslim, or holding a passport from a Muslim country, should be allowed into the US.
These rules would remain in effect until Islam joins the modern world, renounces its goals of world domination, and ALL terrorists are turned in by the 'decent' Muslims. When the violent, bloodthirsty, barbaric aspects of Islam are no more, then it could be reconsidered as a religon.
Harsh? Yes. But they can't attack our country if they are not IN our country. Our lenience, tolerance, and trust has been- and will be- used against us.
We have a choice here- We can be 'fair'- and more of us will die by terrorism- or we can be 'unfair' and take EVERY measure possible to protect our way of life.
Terrorism will go on until we admit that our enemy is not playing by any rules of modern civilization.
I'd rather be unfair, and alive ,than fair and dead anytime.
There IS no compromise with Islam. It's ultimate goal is to destroy, and replace, the Constitution.
If we let them USE the Constitution to protect themselves, it's checkmate.
After having said that, I don't knwo the answer...I am working on it day and night...but I have not solved the problem...Let me know when you do...I can tell you are working on it...
From another freeper about a year ago:
"Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191)
"Ye are the best of peoples evolved for mankind." (Koran 3:110)
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)
"Not to make friendship with Jews and Christians" (Koran 5:51)
"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)
"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
"If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them [infidels]" (Koran 8:65).
Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (Koran 9:3)
"Fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5)
Our God tells us to "fight the unbelievers" and "He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them" (Koran 9:14).
"Until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Koran 9:29)
"Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (9:39).
"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)
"Murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123)
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:40)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
"strike off the heads of the disbelievers" (Koran 47:4)
"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)
You can continue to hope that Americans are too lazy to read your holy screed (assuming it's "Just like the Bible") and addicted to the farce of multiculturalism to wake up and see you for what you are, but your co-religionists are working at a cross purpose. Each time a muslim draws inspiration from allah and kills as many infidels as he can, more civilized people realize that islam is a religion of hatred and violence.
What gave it away?
Oh yeah...
NUKE EM ALL!
Did you think that up all by yourself? How very clever of you.
Ok we start dropping Nukes....what happens on day two?
And what does the rest of the world do?
Does that include iraq?
What about the Muslims in India? Do we Nuke them too?
"It is easy to fly into a passion--anybody can do that--but to be angry with the right person and at the right time and with the right object and in the right way--that is not easy, and it is not everyone who can do it."
-- Aristotle
Do you know the purpose of nuclear weapons?
Here's a hint, they're made NOT to be used. Or used only as a last resort.
For what it's worth I do believe Assad and the Mullahs in Tehran's days are numbered. And I suspect so do they, that's why they are sending terrorist into Iraq.
All this NUKE EM ALL talk is just so much testosterone driven drivel, that allows people to sound oh so manly. Fortunately there's someone in the WH who actually thinks instead of feels.
Sure, of course there are all of these things and you don't own a nuke. Thinking this way is exactly the same as the radicals over there think. What's the diff? This stuff = that stuff
Nice strawman, but the thread is bout this written threat to all human civilization:
"Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191)
"Ye are the best of peoples evolved for mankind." (Koran 3:110)
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)
"Not to make friendship with Jews and Christians" (Koran 5:51)
"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)
"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
"If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them [infidels]" (Koran 8:65).
Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (Koran 9:3)
"Fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5)
Our God tells us to "fight the unbelievers" and "He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them" (Koran 9:14).
"Until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Koran 9:29)
"Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (9:39).
"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)
"Murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123)
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:40)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
"strike off the heads of the disbelievers" (Koran 47:4)
"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)
Islamic terrorism is based on Islam as revealed through the Quran, keynote speaker Bruce Tefft claimed in a panel discussion at the University of Toronto on jihad and global terrorism. The session, held late last month, was sponsored by the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Speakers Action Group.
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He could be onto something here...
http://muhammadanism.org/Muhammad/Muhammad_Terrorism.htm#Actions
There you go again...
"And seek not occasions for mischief in the land: for Allah loves not those who do mischief"
Beware of excesses in matters of religion. For, as a matter of fact, those before you were destroyed by religious immoderation"
"He who kills himself with anything, Allah will torment him with that in the fire of Hell"
"...If anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or to spread mischief in the land, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind. And (likewise) if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind"
If you want we can swap verses until the cows come home.
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