Posted on 12/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
Edited on 12/07/2004 9:35:07 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
U.S. military intelligence has concluded the Iraqi insurgency is being directed to a greater degree than previously thought from Syria, where former Saddam Hussein loyalists have found sanctuary and are channeling money, other support, the WASHINGTON POST will report in Wednesday editions... DEVELOPING...
Link to Article and EXCERPT:
Rebels Aided By Sources in Syria, U.S. Says
Rebels Aided By Sources in Syria, U.S. Says
Baathists Reportedly Relay Money, Support
U.S. military intelligence officials have concluded that the Iraqi insurgency is being directed to a greater degree than previously recognized from Syria, where they said former Saddam Hussein loyalists have found sanctuary and are channeling money and other support to those fighting the established government.
Based on information gathered during the recent fighting in Fallujah, Baghdad and elsewhere in the Sunni Triangle, the officials said that a handful of senior Iraqi Baathists operating in Syria are collecting money from private sources in Saudi Arabia and Europe and turning it over to the insurgency.
In some cases, evidence suggests that these Baathists are managing operations in Iraq from a distance, the officials said. A U.S. military summary of operations in Fallujah noted recently that troops discovered a global positioning signal receiver in a bomb factory in the western part of the city that "contained waypoints originating in western Syria."
Concerns about Syria's role in Iraq were also expressed in interviews The Washington Post conducted yesterday with Jordan's King Abdullah and Iraqi President Ghazi Yawar. "There are people in Syria who are bad guys, who are fugitives of the law and who are Saddam remnants who are trying to bring the vicious dictatorship of Saddam back," Yawar said. "They are not minding their business or living a private life. They are . . . disturbing or undermining our political process."...."
Hmmmmm....I dunno.
It might all be done the same day, LOL.
What I would view as a sign that the game is afoot, would be the positioning of a second or third carrier group in the region. They won't do all this on the ground, perhaps some special forces and arty.
We will punish them with air strikes. To do that real hard, we need carrier support and their cruise missiles.
Oh now, THERE'S a surprise! ;o)
Nice dreamin.
The problem with kicking an anthill over is that you still have to deal with the ants.
You're assuming that the intell services haven't been reporting this all along. I suspect they have, but the decision makers have been, if not exactly ignoring it, putting it on the back burner until the time is right. Like after the US and Iraqi elections.
A call to Syria, give them up(the Baathists) quickly to avoid further possible action..
Realitively cheap with the Isrealis help.. Syria would be more or less surrounded..
Yeah!... LEBANON... no further just Lebanon.. also THEN;
Start talks with Syria about those darned insurrectionists in Iraq.. Syria = Fish Tank...
I believe a famous Roman Emperor said the same thing. Augustus Caesar was it?
A little quote from a biography:
"Despite vanquishing his opponents in the long series of civil wars 49-45 BC, Caesar did little to address the underlying ills of the Republic. His concerns were first and foremost the defeat in the field of his political opponents. During these years, and following his final victory, he was content to maintain control by a combination of the consulship and the revived, albeit reviled, dictatorship. Extensive and excessive honors of all sorts were also voted to Caesar by a sycophantic senate: he refused none, save attempts to crown him king. Nevertheless, his broad disregard for tradition and precedent, and the general air of arrogance and high-handedness that marked Caesar's dealings with his peers, made him appear Rome's king in all but name. To be sure, he passed various items of legislation dealing with immediate problems (for instance, debt relief or the calendar), but he made no serious effort to systematize his position or tackle the issues that had generated the Roman Revolution in the first place. In fact, in the last months of his life he was planning to leave Rome for several years to campaign against the Parthians in the East. That the cabal of nobles who conspired to kill Caesar included disaffected members of his own party constitutes stark testimony as to the effects of Caesar's tactlessness. On 15 March, 44 BC C. Julius Caesar, dictator for life, was surrounded by the conspirators at a meeting of the senate and cut down with twenty-three stab wounds. He died at the foot of a statue of his great rival, Pompey. The senatorial "Liberators," covered in blood and brandishing their daggers, rushed out to accept the gratitude of the liberated. They met with a somewhat different reception. "
"God Bless you and your son, we all are indebted to great Americans like you and your son."
I don't have a son. I have a nephew in the Marines ready to go back to the sand box in a few months.
I think you meant to direct your blessing to Yoliz. Who I had responded to a few threads back. His son is under mortar fire from the Syrian boarder. My nephew is at 29Palms Marine Corps. base practicing with the 2nd LAR Bn, as I write, for their upcoming deployment to Iraq. But I surely will accept your good thoughts in his behalf and every Army,Navy,Airforce, and Marine in Iraq and Afganistan. As
GWB put it some time back. They are our best! God bless every one of them and bring them home to their loved ones alive and well if it is in HIS perfect will.
And, too, there is a lot of discontent in Iran, especially
among males 18 to 44.
Invade Syria and prompt internal rebellion in Iran.
It's a deuce.
Spew once and go to sleep? Bet you're a real hit with the ladies. </sarc>
I was thinking of the Israelis' "Great Bekaa Valley Turkey Shoot". Their ROE said they couldn't destroy the Syrian aircraft on the ground. So they'd track the takeoff roll from their E-2 Hawkeyes, then shoot their missiles (AIM-7F Sparrows and AIM-9L Sidewinders) as the Migs (or Su's) cleared the end of the runway.
Even among their Soviet advisers the story was that the Syrians maintained a departure control, but no approach control. :)
Tank country is exactly how I'd call it, and we're sitting on half of it. I took this from the TC side of a gunvee during a drive along the Syrian border. The loc is due west of Sinjar villiage, which is the last Iraqi town before the border on the road to Mosul. Beyond the road is a seven foot earthen berm, ostensibly to stop smugglers.
This pic was taken on a hill at the end of a small mountain range. Pretty much everything beyond this point leading into Syria is as flat as can be.
Yes, looks like a preparatory statement by our government. Of course, half of the citizens in the US won't pay attention.
We'll never know. If or when the US starts seriously rattling sabers in Syria's general direction, we'll give them at least a year's notice so they'll have time to move and hide any WMD.
I think our government knew.
This seems to be a calculated release of information.
It's not.
That's Captain James Rtiberius Kirk. The "R" is silent.
(Reference: In the pilot, he is shown his own headstone, labelled James R Kirk.)
Yeah, it's not fair. You'd figure a guy who logs 10,000 takeoffs would be a pretty good pilot, but if he only has 9,999 landings...
True, but we'd be coming in from the West via Iraq...or Israel would be coming in from the South via Lebanon (which is ripe for the taking right now).
That being said, a *leaked* story to the liberal Washington Post by unnamed military "sources" reaks of our traitorous CIA repeating again the anti-Iran stories that they ran just before we invaded Iraq...i.e., the CIA tried to confuse us, tried to divert our attention, etc.
In this case, Iran is abou to have the Bomb...yet suddenly we start seeing Intel on Syria stirring up trouble.
do we really want to waste time and resources putting down Syria in the West when Iran in the East is the problem?!
Heavens no! And for that reason, this new anonymous leak to the Washington Post is doubly suspicious. Syria doesn't have the Bomb. Syria isn't about to get the Bomb, either (unless it cares to make us mad enough to do some American nuclear testing there).
But here goes the Washington Post "whisper" campaign. Suddenly Syria is the bad guy. Oh no, don't look at Iran building the Bomb, squeals the 3 little pigs at the WaPost. Don't fret about the oil for food scandal at our precious UN, they plead. No, they cry...Syria is your new badman. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket, it's Syria. We've just "got" to hit Syria right now, they demand.
Color me suspicious.
IMO, we move next against them as priority-one commencing February 1. Not saying militarily first. But the priorities have probably already been set:
1) Subdue Iraq,
2) Pressure the EU/UN to go after Iran,
3) Pressure China to go after NK,
4) Pressure Israel to make peace with the Palis,
5) Go after Syria HARD,
6) See what happens in Iran, revise the plan A/R.
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