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Rebels aided by sources in Syria, U.S. says (Syria behind Insurgency DRUDGE)
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Posted on 12/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear

Edited on 12/07/2004 9:35:07 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Cyclopean Squid
The President won't waste his time going to Congress or the UN again.

Hmmmmm....I dunno.

It might all be done the same day, LOL.

What I would view as a sign that the game is afoot, would be the positioning of a second or third carrier group in the region. They won't do all this on the ground, perhaps some special forces and arty.

We will punish them with air strikes. To do that real hard, we need carrier support and their cruise missiles.

81 posted on 12/07/2004 8:59:46 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: JBlain

Oh now, THERE'S a surprise! ;o)


82 posted on 12/07/2004 9:00:30 PM PST by SuziQ (W STILL the President)
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To: JBlain

Nice dreamin.


83 posted on 12/07/2004 9:01:03 PM PST by wardaddy (Quisiera ser un pez para tocar mi nariz en tu pecera)
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To: El Gato
Yep - the last time we sent a greeting into the Bekaa valley it was courtesy of the 16" guns of battleship Iowa. They've been fighting clan-based civil wars in that area since King David's time and probably before. Good terrain for specops, not so good for conventional troops, lousy for occupation.

The problem with kicking an anthill over is that you still have to deal with the ants.

84 posted on 12/07/2004 9:01:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: HardStarboard
Our intelligence services are woefully weak and inept. The shakeup is long overdue - but it will be a long time before they are operating with the required level of performance.

You're assuming that the intell services haven't been reporting this all along. I suspect they have, but the decision makers have been, if not exactly ignoring it, putting it on the back burner until the time is right. Like after the US and Iraqi elections.

85 posted on 12/07/2004 9:04:57 PM PST by El Gato (/)
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To: JBlain
Invade Lebanon, Beka Valley and the opium and marijuana fields, NOW...
Syrians and the other terrorists there will high tail it to Syria..
The columns to Syria would be serious Warthog(A-10) bait..
Would send a chill up Syria leaderships back.. back down the front straining "frienships" with Iraq Baathists..

A call to Syria, give them up(the Baathists) quickly to avoid further possible action..
Realitively cheap with the Isrealis help.. Syria would be more or less surrounded..

Yeah!... LEBANON... no further just Lebanon.. also THEN;
Start talks with Syria about those darned insurrectionists in Iraq.. Syria = Fish Tank...

86 posted on 12/07/2004 9:09:53 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Freedom121

I believe a famous Roman Emperor said the same thing. Augustus Caesar was it?

A little quote from a biography:
"Despite vanquishing his opponents in the long series of civil wars 49-45 BC, Caesar did little to address the underlying ills of the Republic. His concerns were first and foremost the defeat in the field of his political opponents. During these years, and following his final victory, he was content to maintain control by a combination of the consulship and the revived, albeit reviled, dictatorship. Extensive and excessive honors of all sorts were also voted to Caesar by a sycophantic senate: he refused none, save attempts to crown him king. Nevertheless, his broad disregard for tradition and precedent, and the general air of arrogance and high-handedness that marked Caesar's dealings with his peers, made him appear Rome's king in all but name. To be sure, he passed various items of legislation dealing with immediate problems (for instance, debt relief or the calendar), but he made no serious effort to systematize his position or tackle the issues that had generated the Roman Revolution in the first place. In fact, in the last months of his life he was planning to leave Rome for several years to campaign against the Parthians in the East. That the cabal of nobles who conspired to kill Caesar included disaffected members of his own party constitutes stark testimony as to the effects of Caesar's tactlessness. On 15 March, 44 BC C. Julius Caesar, dictator for life, was surrounded by the conspirators at a meeting of the senate and cut down with twenty-three stab wounds. He died at the foot of a statue of his great rival, Pompey. The senatorial "Liberators," covered in blood and brandishing their daggers, rushed out to accept the gratitude of the liberated. They met with a somewhat different reception. "


87 posted on 12/07/2004 9:13:38 PM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: MJY1288

"God Bless you and your son, we all are indebted to great Americans like you and your son."

I don't have a son. I have a nephew in the Marines ready to go back to the sand box in a few months.
I think you meant to direct your blessing to Yoliz. Who I had responded to a few threads back. His son is under mortar fire from the Syrian boarder. My nephew is at 29Palms Marine Corps. base practicing with the 2nd LAR Bn, as I write, for their upcoming deployment to Iraq. But I surely will accept your good thoughts in his behalf and every Army,Navy,Airforce, and Marine in Iraq and Afganistan. As
GWB put it some time back. They are our best! God bless every one of them and bring them home to their loved ones alive and well if it is in HIS perfect will.


88 posted on 12/07/2004 9:16:34 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: SteveMcKing

And, too, there is a lot of discontent in Iran, especially
among males 18 to 44.

Invade Syria and prompt internal rebellion in Iran.

It's a deuce.


89 posted on 12/07/2004 9:18:03 PM PST by plangent
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To: CBart95

Spew once and go to sleep? Bet you're a real hit with the ladies. </sarc>


90 posted on 12/07/2004 9:19:31 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: Billthedrill
Yep - the last time we sent a greeting into the Bekaa valley it was courtesy of the 16" guns of battleship Iowa

I was thinking of the Israelis' "Great Bekaa Valley Turkey Shoot". Their ROE said they couldn't destroy the Syrian aircraft on the ground. So they'd track the takeoff roll from their E-2 Hawkeyes, then shoot their missiles (AIM-7F Sparrows and AIM-9L Sidewinders) as the Migs (or Su's) cleared the end of the runway.

Even among their Soviet advisers the story was that the Syrians maintained a departure control, but no approach control. :)

91 posted on 12/07/2004 9:19:56 PM PST by El Gato (/)
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To: JBlain
Article now available here:

Syria Aiding Rebels in Iraq

92 posted on 12/07/2004 9:20:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: CGVet58
Ou can see the terrain around the coast has some ranges, but at 18 miles roughly fm the port, they would be a good defensive position around the beachhead. After that it's "tank country" - the syrians wouldn't last three days.

Tank country is exactly how I'd call it, and we're sitting on half of it. I took this from the TC side of a gunvee during a drive along the Syrian border. The loc is due west of Sinjar villiage, which is the last Iraqi town before the border on the road to Mosul. Beyond the road is a seven foot earthen berm, ostensibly to stop smugglers.

This pic was taken on a hill at the end of a small mountain range. Pretty much everything beyond this point leading into Syria is as flat as can be.

93 posted on 12/07/2004 9:21:15 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: RWR8189

Yes, looks like a preparatory statement by our government. Of course, half of the citizens in the US won't pay attention.


94 posted on 12/07/2004 9:21:20 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SteveMcKing
I can't imagine how people will squirm if/when we do find WMD were moved to Syria.

We'll never know. If or when the US starts seriously rattling sabers in Syria's general direction, we'll give them at least a year's notice so they'll have time to move and hide any WMD.

95 posted on 12/07/2004 9:22:48 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: HardStarboard
and we're just getting a clue where its coming from?

I think our government knew.

This seems to be a calculated release of information.

96 posted on 12/07/2004 9:26:16 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

It's not.

That's Captain James Rtiberius Kirk. The "R" is silent.

(Reference: In the pilot, he is shown his own headstone, labelled James R Kirk.)


97 posted on 12/07/2004 9:30:27 PM PST by dangus
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To: El Gato

Yeah, it's not fair. You'd figure a guy who logs 10,000 takeoffs would be a pretty good pilot, but if he only has 9,999 landings...


98 posted on 12/07/2004 9:31:17 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: CGVet58; dead; Dog; wretchard; Travis McGee; blam; section9; Nick Danger; Squantos; cyncooper; ...
"YOu can see the terrain around the coast has some ranges, but at 18 miles roughly fm the port, they would be a good defensive position around the beachhead. After that it's "tank country" - the syrians wouldn't last three days."

True, but we'd be coming in from the West via Iraq...or Israel would be coming in from the South via Lebanon (which is ripe for the taking right now).

That being said, a *leaked* story to the liberal Washington Post by unnamed military "sources" reaks of our traitorous CIA repeating again the anti-Iran stories that they ran just before we invaded Iraq...i.e., the CIA tried to confuse us, tried to divert our attention, etc.

In this case, Iran is abou to have the Bomb...yet suddenly we start seeing Intel on Syria stirring up trouble.

do we really want to waste time and resources putting down Syria in the West when Iran in the East is the problem?!

Heavens no! And for that reason, this new anonymous leak to the Washington Post is doubly suspicious. Syria doesn't have the Bomb. Syria isn't about to get the Bomb, either (unless it cares to make us mad enough to do some American nuclear testing there).

But here goes the Washington Post "whisper" campaign. Suddenly Syria is the bad guy. Oh no, don't look at Iran building the Bomb, squeals the 3 little pigs at the WaPost. Don't fret about the oil for food scandal at our precious UN, they plead. No, they cry...Syria is your new badman. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket, it's Syria. We've just "got" to hit Syria right now, they demand.

Color me suspicious.

99 posted on 12/07/2004 9:34:26 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The circumstantial evidence case against Syria would be enough for an LA jury to convict OJ.

IMO, we move next against them as priority-one commencing February 1. Not saying militarily first. But the priorities have probably already been set:

1) Subdue Iraq,
2) Pressure the EU/UN to go after Iran,
3) Pressure China to go after NK,
4) Pressure Israel to make peace with the Palis,
5) Go after Syria HARD,
6) See what happens in Iran, revise the plan A/R.

100 posted on 12/07/2004 9:34:39 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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