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AIDS rate for homosexuals climbs; data called 'astonishing'
Baptist Press ^ | Dec 2, 2004 | Michael Foust

Posted on 12/05/2004 2:00:09 PM PST by Coleus

AIDS rate for homosexuals climbs; data called 'astonishing'
Dec 2, 2004
By Michael Foust

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--New statistics showing that homosexual men make up 44 percent of all new HIV and AIDS cases underscore the fact that homosexuality itself is unnatural, a prominent leader in the ex-homosexual community says.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released data Dec. 2 showing that the number of newly diagnosed HIV and AIDS cases has increased 11 percent among homosexual men. The data spanned a four-year period ending in 2003.

Despite the fact that homosexual men make up only 1 to 2 percent of the population, they nonetheless made up more than 40 percent of the new cases, the data showed.

Tim Wilkins, head of Cross Ministry, Inc. -- a Christian outreach to homosexuals -- called the data "astonishing."

"If homosexuality was normal and natural, you would not have a disease that spreads as ravenously as this does," said Wilkins, who is married now but once was involved in homosexuality.

Homosexual activists responded to the news by calling for better education and prevention -- for instance, the promotion of condom usage. But Wilkins said the problem can be found in homosexual sex itself. Men were not made to have sex with men, he said.

"All of mankind is physiologically heterosexual -- that's just a fact," Wilkins said. "One hundred percent of the homosexual community is physiologically heterosexual.

"We can throw more and more money, bigger budgets, bigger programs, more education [at the problem]. And we see that education is not correcting the problem at all."

For years, studies have shown that homosexual men are prone to promiscuity. A University of Chicago study released in 2003 found that 61 percent of homosexuals in Chicago’s Shoreland area had more than 30 sexual partners. Perhaps just as telling, some two-thirds of same-sex "marriages" in Massachusetts have involved lesbians -- underscoring, pro-family leaders say, the notion that homosexual men are less prone to commitment.

"[The CDC] statistic obviously shows a pathology that indicates an abnormality," Wilkins said. "From a Christian perspective we would call it sin."

Such statistics should result in the scientific community re-evaluating its position on homosexuality, Wilkins said.

The Christian church, though, should not respond by saying, "I told you so," Wilkins said. Instead, the church should respond with compassion.

"We can't allow sin in any form to repulse us from reaching out to people who are hurting," he said. "As horrible as AIDS is, it can be -- and I believe it is -- an opportunity for the church to reach people who are broken."
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: aids; anusisanexit; cdc; fudgepackeralert; gay; gaydisease; gaymansdisease; getyourlipsoffthat; glsen; grid; health; hiv; hivaids; homosexualagenda; homosexuallist; queer; wod
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To: Txsleuth
...with deportation to a more AIDS friendly country.

Is there one other than the USoA?

121 posted on 12/05/2004 7:34:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Thanks for the biblical passages.


122 posted on 12/05/2004 7:35:49 PM PST by Coleus (There is Plenty of Room For all of God's Creatures, Right Next to the mashed potatoes!)
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To: Coleus

Rub-a-dub-dub, three men in a tub.


123 posted on 12/05/2004 7:36:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NurdlyPeon

The 1 in 10 crap was just that--crap.

The figure came from Kinsey whose data was flawed, taken from men in prisons many of whom were there for homosexual crimes.


124 posted on 12/05/2004 7:38:19 PM PST by wildbill
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To: John Lenin

Or the medical procedure:

sub-trac-a-dic-from-me


125 posted on 12/05/2004 7:38:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Coleus

Nature will not be mocked!


126 posted on 12/05/2004 7:41:36 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: wildbill

even the homosexuals have been forced to admit the number is at the less than 2.7% number. (per lawrence brief)

It is very apparent that Kinsey, Masters and Johnson, and other "celebrated" sex researchers engaged in falsifing results in order to adhere to their own desired outcomes.

Sad when you consider how valid data would have benifited society.


127 posted on 12/05/2004 8:06:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Coleus

You are welcome.

The Spirit of the Lord inspired men to write as HE moved them, giving us our foundation upon which this Country was founded.

If we (The Country) continue the course we are following, will our descendants, someday, have their OWN leaders of Ezra and Nehemiah's stature and drive?


128 posted on 12/05/2004 8:10:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: punster
Punster, after 20+ years of AIDS, there's not a single, proven case of heterosexual transmission (non-drugs, non-anal sex, non-blood transfusion) in America. NOT ONE.

The women that get it via sex get it via anal sex. Guys do NOT get it from women. There are tons of reasons to use protection, and be extremely cautious, AIDS is certainly not something I ever fear.

129 posted on 12/05/2004 8:15:26 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Tacis
The NYT and mainstream media will fix this, pronto. They will begin a tattoo of articles about increasing AIDS cases among normal people, females, whites, anything to draw the stigma away from fairies. They'll fix, not to worry

That's EXACTLY what the media did in the 80s, tried to make people believe that everyone is susceptible to it... One of the objectives was to remove the stigma as a "gay disease". The other is to promote disproportionate funds for fighting it.

How disgusting

130 posted on 12/05/2004 8:18:00 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Cheetah1
AIDS is everywhere - straight and gay

Total BS. You've fallen for the media's propoganda war

131 posted on 12/05/2004 8:19:03 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: longtermmemmory
What happened to the 2002 CDC data which showed 90%+ of AIDS/HIV cases were homosexual related?

My bet is that they lowered the rate to 40% by creating the psuedo-category "bisexual"... As if the fact that a homosexual might also have sex with a woman means that he is something other than a homosexual.

132 posted on 12/05/2004 8:21:07 PM PST by Barnacle (We dodged the bullet to our head. Now we'd better get back to treating the cancer.)
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To: tuesday afternoon
In the US, homosexual men have a 1 out of 7 chance (14.25%) of having AIDS. The chance of getting AIDS from heterosexual transmission is .0005%. HIV/AIDS Statistics

Most of that is via anal sex... In addition, these stats are based on what the infected men say. Admitting to being gay has a stigma, drugs are illegal... so, the easy way out is to say they got it from a hooker

133 posted on 12/05/2004 8:21:17 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: yankeedame

I agree. Not surprising.
In fact, the figures are much higher.
In fact, homosexuals'ife expectancy is very low..
In fact, the perversion is dangerous.


134 posted on 12/05/2004 8:22:07 PM PST by MaryJaneNC
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To: Coleus
It would be safe to say that AIDS in America is primarily spread by homosexual males who still enjoy multiple partners. End sodomy and I bet AIDS will end.

BINGO

135 posted on 12/05/2004 8:24:20 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Fatalis
People often lie about how they were infected with HIV, and it's a lot easier to explain to your friends that you got it from a hooker (hello, Magic Johnson) than that you got it from another man. Follow up studies often flush out those who misrepresent their pathway of infection.

I said the same exact thing.

136 posted on 12/05/2004 8:25:57 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Coleus

Good post.

"Despite the fact that homosexual men make up only 1 to 2 percent of the population, they nonetheless made up more than 40 percent of the new cases, the data showed."

They're killing themselves. The only problem is that they are adopting kids and molesting them to to keep this emotional disorder ongoing.


137 posted on 12/05/2004 8:30:42 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: HitmanNY
They reported that getting AIDS was somehow a badge of membership into the community and that enough folks were adopting the 'inevitablity' of getting the disease.

If that's the attitude behind a big chunk of the infections, I have a really hard time justifying the expenditure of (more) gargantuan amounts of tax money into curing them. There are many, many more deadly diseases out there, and since this one is overwhelmingly controllable through behavioral changes, the disproportionate funding of AIDS research and the consequences of that unbalance should be alarming to all.

138 posted on 12/05/2004 8:41:55 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Fatalis; EdReform; little jeremiah; scripter
Your figures are much more realistic;however,I believe you are still low on the per-centages of Aids in homosexuals. Initially the statistics seemed to indicate that at least 80% of Aids (called Grid 'gay related immune deficiency disease',as I recall)occured in homosexuals. Haitians and hemophiliacs and heroin addicts were also known to have contracted the disease. At he hospital I worked at it was known as the 4H disease.

After about three years the frequency of Aids found in intravenous drug users (heroin users) edged up. This was due in part,as you said,to a willingness of homosexuals to attribute drugs as causal,rather than admit to their homosexuality. This may have done to avoid telling their families of their proclivity or to protect the homosex community from adverse publicity that might result in behavioral sanctions.The Public Health Director in San Francisco was unable to close the bath houses for many years even though it was common knowledge that sex with strangers was responsible for spreading the disease.

Then bisexuals wre introduced into the mix,babies born to HIV positive mothers,some heterosexual Aids in women (many were prostitutes and some others were intravenous drug abusers),persons who had blood transfusions and some health care workers who had been stuck with dirty needles and some who had contracted it by getting contaminated blood on broken skin. As you can see,many of these categories bled into one another. But,I never saw the figure of male with male sex go below more than 1 or 2 per-centage points below 70%.

So I was quite astonished too,when I read that homosexual Aids rate were climbing and had reached 44%,I cannot help but believe that is just bunk.

139 posted on 12/05/2004 8:44:50 PM PST by saradippity
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To: saradippity

Excellent points. Simple common sense and addition shows us the real meaning of these figures:

48% homosexuals
27% needle users (very often prostitutes, often male prostitutes, and who infected the needle first?)
7% Both categories.

So - 82% is from homosexuals AND needle users. It's really the same category as one bleeds into the other (no pun intended), and it is also a fact that drug use is much higher among homosexuals than the population in general.


140 posted on 12/05/2004 10:32:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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