Posted on 12/05/2004 7:52:53 AM PST by TFMcGuire
Hello Chinese sub, meet Sea Wolfe.
It worked too didn't it.. And they say democrats are not smart-->> They knew pubbies in general and the relgious right and all the church ladies would fall all over themselves on THAT BLUE DRESS.. And Ken Starr milked it until the chinese had gotten all they wanted.. the chinese also gained unlimited access to all the pending plans, specifcations, and supporting data in the Patent Office too.. may even be a bigger travesty.. else WHY did they do it.. No one even HEARD of Patent-gate till this day..
Australia under Howard and Downer have already sided with the communists of China.
In the new every nation for itself atmosphere that has evolved since the year 2000, I've come to realize that there isn't a thing we can do about China. War WILL BE the only resolution, and our shortsighted stark raving mad trade policies will have been the cause.
We lit the fuse. Now we'll just simply wait until the sucker goes off.
The reasons for this are two-fold.
First, the transfer of the American technological and manufacturing base over to China has made it possible for China to invent things and produce them cheaply.
More importantly, the continued loss of Freedom here in America is resulting in a substantial brain-drain and decreases in real productivity.
The real goodies passed to China under Clinton. That Chinese spy at Los alamos of Lawrence Livermore---I can't remember which.
And then the weapons science for campaign donations Clinton and his team were guilty of.
Not to mention their huge labor pool, willing to work at a rate one-tenth that of American workers.
The One who sets up and takes down kingdoms may still have something to say about them, us, or both.
Extremely complicated subject you bring up. Two schools of thought on this one.
1. It is more dangerous not to do business and stifle their economy (i.e. Japan pre-WWII), eventually causing them to lash out in a perceived self-defense.
or
2. Feed them technology and business which will substantially greaten their millitary and economic power.
My opinion is there is not much we can do except hope to counter any aggresive behavior in a manner similar to the way we dealt with the USSR in the Cold War. It is useful to remember that the relative weakness of the Chinese culture over the last 200-300 years is a very small part of their history. China has the potential to dwarf the economic and millitary strength of the former Soviet Union. However, their strength in numbers is also their achilles heel.
We are lucky in the sense that the Chinese are not radical religious zealots like the Iranians. I think it is unclear what their long term motives are. I'm not convinced they are going to be an overly aggesive neighbor in the far east, but demands from their economy may force them to be much like the Japanese were in previous times.
The Bush administration seems to subscribe to the school of thought that it is better to engage in order to create a dynamic diplomatic relationship. Creative economic relationships are good in the business sense, but must be excercised cautiously.
Right now China doesen't have much logical incentive to rock the boat too much. I fear that in the next 25 years thought the strain on the behemoth industrial machine will require an expanionist requirement. If this occurs, you will probably see one of the largest and bloodiest conflicts since WWII.
Yep, those and more come to to mind.
John Huang, top level security clearence, even after he moved to state... Getting top left C.I.A. briefings then going directly across the street to call, fax and email off to southeast Asia.
Clinton gave away anything that wasn't nailed down, our corporations did likewise and Hatch even tried to give away more than that (the complete patent database of the United States).
I feel sorry for any sonar men who have to listen to that thing thrash the water to death as loudly as it can.
I hope we let them steal the stuff we wanted them to get. Yeah, I know wishful thinking. I would be willing to bet they won't paint it Yellow.
Jeff, no time to read the whole thread now. Matybe someone pinged you, but hmmmm....
FReegards
It looks like an ex-Soviet Delta III or Delta IV ballistic missile submarine.
Heh...
Ahhhhh!
How very true!
A lil skulking around sniffing the H2O is always therapeutic.
Heh, Heh!
Ahhhhh!
How very true!
A lil skulking around sniffing the H2O is always therapeutic.
Heh, Heh!
not far from the truth... but probably more more like the invasion force in the chronicles of riddick without 'riddick' to save them.
romulan vessel?
Toshiba passed the Soviets the software/machining tools to quieten their props.
Huge sellout 15 years ago or so.
Significant security breech.
Me too!
Many thanks!
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