Watch Out for those Islamists trying to take away America

[velocityguy]

I am not am American, but nowadays I regularly visit this site from my Univ's Computer science lab here in India.

Muslims first request, beg, plead etc for a little space where they can live, build their own mosque and raise their children. This is when they are in minority numbers relative to the local populations. When they gain a sizable majority, then they will demand a separate homeland. Just look at my own country India. Now that they are the majority in Kashmir, they are demanding a separate country. Unfortunately, these people are like this. If you do not submit to their demands, then they will start bombing, killing people, suicide bombing the shopping malls, planting bombs in railway stations etc etc.

While growing up in my beautiful city Hyderabad, we have hardly ever heard of terrorist activities in my city. My city has two parts- Old Hyderabad and New Hyderabad. New Hyderabad is the heartland of IT, Electrical Engineers and Computer Scientists. While old city slowly has become the victim of underdevelopment. The reason for this is Muslims in old Hyderabad have become the majority now. As a result, all non-Muslims were subjected to so much violence that they have to leave the old city and move to New Hyderabad. It is very very hard for the Police to investigate such violent killings of non-Muslims or catch Islamic terrorist hatching a new plan. When you try to investigate them, then these Islamists will lie. Because they practice something called "Taqiyyah". It means that a Muslim will never be truthful to the law enforcement or anyone when such truth will convict a fellow Muslim. Taqiyyah is practiced extensively my Islamists at all levels. Simply they will lie to a non-Muslim.

So to keep the long story short, it is inevitable America will face the same problems as we here in India face with the ever increasing Islamic insurgency. Even now a days, Russia and China are also beginning to see an increased unrest in Islam dominated cities. I noticed Americans are slowly waking up to what has come to their door steps from the shores of Asia in the from of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. CAIR is an organization bent on destroying "any one" against Islam. Many Indians here feel pity that majority of the Americans are still blind to the menacing threat called Islam, now in their major cities. Don't let your country face a hige battle like these Asian countries including India. Our life, traditions, customs and cultures are getting slowly wiped out by Islamic terrorism. Don't let this happen to you.

All the best America.

Vineet, Computer Science Engineering Department, College of Engineering, Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University, Hyderabad, India

[ROTB]

>Right now as we speak Islamic insurgency has taken the lives
>of nine Indian soldiers.

Back in 1988, my junior high history teacher expressed indignation that "murderers" had been rebadged as "terrorists."

Now, the "terrorists" have been rebadged "insurgents."

Of all words, "murderers" is most descriptive.

[velocityguy]

Sorry, my English is not that great. But this is what I wanted to say -
Yes, educated Indians are very very anti-Islam. But the only problem "was" the uneducated rural population "was" very much vulnerable to Islam and thus "were" getting converted.
many educated Indians do as much possible as they can to highlight via e-mailing or new paper advertisements on how much violence is caused every day by islamists.
Vineet

[The Westerner]

Thank you for your informative post, V. Unfortunately, though we understand quite well the motives of CAIR, political correctness prevents anyone from closing it down. President Bush has entertained members of CAIR and choses to turn the other cheek. He wants to portray them as the "religion of peace". That mistake on his part will cost more American lives than we can imagine, and probably our entire country.

[REDWOOD99]

Your English is fine, Vineet. Has the anti-Islam sentiment progressed beyond e-mailing and newspaper ads? Are there cases of revenge violence?

[dagogo redux]

Thanks for the post. What you say comes as little surprise to me, since I practiced a form of Kashmir Shaivism for many years, and always wanted to travel to Kashmir on pilgrimage but it seemed increasingly dangerous due to the Muslim violence (I eventually shifted over to Buddhism, but still retain my Kashmir Shaivism roots and Guru!)

I was deeply impressed years ago and often bring to mind Will Durant’s chapters on the Muslim conquest of India from Part I, Our Oriental Heritage of his multi-volume Story of Civilization. As bookends to a cataloging of the endless atrocities the invading Muslims perpetrated on the Hindus, he offers these two paragraphs:

“The Mohammedan Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within. The Hindus had allowed their strength to be wasted in internal division and war; they had adopted religions like Buddhism and Jainism, which unnerved them for the tasks of life; they had failed to organize their forces for the protection of their frontiers and their capitals, their wealth and their freedom, from the hordes of Scythians, Huns, Afghans, and Turks hovering about India’s boundaries and waiting for national weakness to let them in. For four hundred years (600 1000 A.D.) India invited conquest; and at last it came.”

and, after all the gory details about the introduction of the “Religion of Peace” onto the Indian subcontinent:

“This is the secret of the political history of modern India. Weakened by division, it succumbed to invaders; impoverished by invaders, it lost all power of resistance, and took refuge in supernatural consolations; it argued that both mastery and slavery were superficial delusions, and concluded that freedom of the body or the nation was hardly worth defending in so brief a life. The bitter lesson that may be drawn from this tragedy is that eternal vigilance is the price of civilization. A nation must love peace, but keep its powder dry.”

All the best to you. Welcome to FreeRepublic.

[TeleStraightShooter]

Taqiyyah is practiced extensively my Islamists at all levels. Simply they will lie to a non-Muslim.

Perhaps a way to neutralize CAIR in America is to incessantly parade them in front of a grand jury.

Perjury laws could are irrespective of Taqiyyah.

[velocityguy]

In our country, the governments in 1980's did exactly the same. They were telling "We are a democratic country where every one is equal, so Muslims are also our citizens". The idea of those previous governments was to assimilate the Muslims by "convincing" them. The way the previous governments tried to convince them is by being easy on them giving extra freedoms and not efficiently prosecuting their murderous activities. Honestly, india has only waken up after the massive bombings in Bomday in the 1990's. Since then the people of India have dethroned the government in the elections and continuously elected a strong "pro-India and pro-Security to Indian citizens" governments until to this date.

This has to happen in American governments. The American government should realize the threat they are facing with out any selfish ambitions. Because if the people in the government offices in America are making decisions that will put regular American lives in danger, then it is not good for America.

I am from a simple country. If a person like me in India and a government people in a country like India had realized the islamic threat they are facing ten years ago, it absolutely amazes me why American government want to allow so many people using immigration methods. you see these people come to America and then they demand special rights and send dollars to Muslim terrorist organisations in the name of charity. America absolutely needs to wake up and pre-emptively fight back every pro-Islamic propaganda on its soil. If that does not happen, I apologize, but I must say America is bound to loose its freedom.

Learn from India's kashmir murders, Beslan murders, Indonesia murders and the murders that took place on your own soil on 9/11. You have to wake up. Forgive me for saying this, but truth is harsh.

Vineet.

[Robert_Paulson2]

For the last fifty years, the pacifist cowards and commies have done nothing but harp about the atomic bomb'

instead of focusing on the MOST dangerous threat to mankind.. the 'islamic bomb'.

similar sound.

totally different threats.

God help us, we have some folks thinking that all religions are pretty much equal.

pass me the burqua and prayer rug.

[truth_seeker]

"When you try to investigate them, then these Islamists will lie. Because they practice something called "Taqiyyah". It means that a Muslim will never be truthful to the law enforcement or anyone when such truth will convict a fellow Muslim. Taqiyyah is practiced extensively my Islamists at all levels. Simply they will lie to a non-Muslim."

It is worth it for us to learn about "Taqiyyah," and defend against it at every chance.

When just about any muslim speaks or writes about the peace and virtue of their so-called religion, see it as the lie it is.

Islam everywhere is a quasi-religous front for an aggressive and violent political movement, taking supreme instructions from the book-Koran.

That explains why they are unified behind a common pursuit, without a centralized comand structure. The Koran does that.

[Bush Revolution]

You are why the internet is so important.
Lock and Load as one freeper has put it....

[dennisw]

Thanks for your perspective from India. Please come back and post some more. India suffered under Muslim invasions and still has problems with Pakistan and the assassins it send sends to Kashmir. Muslims in India are taking over your provinces one by one with their sky high birth rates. And these provinces want to break away from India

Islam is a menace to the entire planet.

[dennisw]

"When you try to investigate them, then these Islamists will lie. Because they practice something called "Taqiyyah". It means that a Muslim will never be truthful to the law enforcement or anyone when such truth will convict a fellow Muslim. Taqiyyah is practiced extensively my Islamists at all levels. Simply they will lie to a non-Muslim."Muhammad said "War is deceit"  

Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”

Bukhari:V4B52N268 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘War is deceit.’”

[BIGLOOK]

Welcome to Free Republic, Vineet. And thank you for your post.

The west must come to the realization that all borders of Islam are at war. Sharia law is barbaric and despotic. Our hope is that the many different peoples that have fallen under its spell will denounce Sharia.

Islam is not a religion.

[velocityguy]

Do you know why islamists behead people? It is simple. Look at the following verse from Quran-
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12, Al-Anfal)

Now when you raise this with a Muslim, he or she will say "oh you are taking the verse out of context, it is only applicable in war". But please note one thing, according to Islam, war=Jihad. And Jihad means "fight of a Muslim FOR ISLAM". The "fight of a Muslim FOR ISLAM" is going on in many parts of the world. To name a few for example, here are some -

1.U.S.(Afghanistan and IRAQ)
2.Russia (Chechenya), Beslan,Ingush
3.India (Kashmir war), Ayodhya, Gujarat, Hyderabad, Bombay.
4. Israel-Palestine.
5. Indonesia (christian-muslim riots)
6. Eritrea(muslim)-Ethiopia(Christian)
7. Serbs - Albanians/Bosnians
8. China (uighur muslims,Xinjiang)
10.Somalia ('93 civil war)


Now you can figure out what the context of the above verse is.

Since lying to a non-Muslim or lying to a non-Muslim government is not a sin in Islam, all the Islamic organisation will always tell "Islam is peaceful and those people that kill in the name of Islam are not true Muslims". While this is not correct, they lie anyway because of Taqiyyah (art of decieving infidels/non-Muslims).

The simple blunt conclusion is NEVER EVER TRUST A MUSLIM.

Please do not learn this conclusion the hard way like we Indians did.

Please be pro-active and educate your kids because they are the most vulnerable with their young minds. And at the same time, those young minds are powerful and strong when brainwashed with islam. This is one reason why you see young people, college going committing suicide bombing. because according to the Mullahs and Imams, it is these young people that they should first convert to Islam as they are more vulnerable. Atleast this is how the Mullahs in my country believe and target young people. Luckily, we are better prepared today than ten years ago and therefore those Mullah tactics are failing. But it is a continuous battle until the last times.

Vineet.

[velocityguy]

Okay, I will go now. I have to attend the class. The professor is coming :(


Bye bye friends.

Vineet.

[sasportas]

Hats off to you for your posts. I am not impressed with Hinduism and Budhism, but I am particulary opposed to Islam. Islam poses a very real threat to every country they have infiltrated.

[Cobra64]

I'm with you on the 'lock and load' perspective. The only semi I had was a Beretta 12 ga. I bought in college 35 years ago for skeet shooting. Now, the vault has some other goodies... and 18 30 round magazines. This "homeland security" issue is getting expensive in the Davis household.

Now, where's my Sig?

[backhoe]

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

[joesnuffy]

Thanks for the 411

Moderate Islam is indeed the 'Trojan Horse' of the real deal....

[Paul_Denton]

Western Europe is pretty much already gone. Look at Sweden where only TWO students in Sweden's largest school are actually Swedish. And the violence has gotten so bad that even the Swedish Police will not tread where they reside. Has any of you seen the Fox News Special "Eurabia"?

People like Chirac think that they will be spared if they got on the terrorists's good side but he could not be anymore wrong. Violence in Spain has only risen since the bombing. The only thing they respect is force.

Anyway welcome to the forum. I am new here too :)