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A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

Posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by ChristianDefender

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.

Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; islam; mad; muslims; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; ropma; terror; wmd; wot
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To: Final Authority
In the pacific war, fighting, defeating, and ending the war with the Japanese was just a matter of time after Germany had surrendered. The end would have come maybe ? 1 or 2 more years later after Germany surrendered ( I am just on a hunch or a guess it would have ended in 1946 or 47 ) However ? not only Truman wanted to protect the Constitution, but, he wanted to bring a quick end to the war in the pacific.
Truman got pre invasion estimate reports that many American lives would be lost trying to take the Japanese Island, and Truman was not going to have that.
Truman used the Atomic bomb to save possibly millions of American lives.
Passed wars ( without political correctness , mainly WWII ) our military leaders and civil leaders did NOT put the lives of civilian enemies before our fighting troops. Our military leaders and civilian leaders put the lives of our troops before our enemies troops and enemies civilian populations.
If we continue with PC correctness, not only our country will be weakened on the inside, but, our military resolve with be made to non effect in the future. That is exactly what our enemies want us to do, to " TIP TOE THROUGH THE TULIPS " or " WALK LIGHTLY ON EGG SHELLS " in any of our military endeavorers.
641 posted on 12/04/2004 4:53:59 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: pharmamom

Buying gloves must be a PITA.


642 posted on 12/04/2004 4:56:56 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: F16Fighter

I wish I were kidding. I called information and asked if there was a number for a Terrorist Tip Line. She said the only one was in El Paso, so I asked for the number and called. The lady said they only deal with the El Paso area.

It's hard to tell if the guy is just an idiot or the real thing. The last trouble with him was yesterday, and I was so proud of the way the woman customer responded to him. She was the one he told, "You don't know who I am".


643 posted on 12/04/2004 5:22:16 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: William Terrell

Hee. Considering the comments here, the notion of a bounty is the very milk of human kindness.

You make a good point.
I don't understand the attitude of most on this thread.


644 posted on 12/04/2004 5:25:08 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: hleewilder

I agree about the deportations. We have 500,000 Iraqis and millions of Muslims in America. Send them to Iraq to die for their democracy.

Why should American boys die if Bush keeps pushing for open borders. Unless we are serious about deporting illegals especially Muslims then the "war on terror" is a farce.


645 posted on 12/04/2004 5:25:39 PM PST by FrankRepublican (Boycott NBC & their parent company General Electric for smearing the USMC)
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To: Old Student
Oh, come on.

dec·i·mate Audio pronunciation of "decimated" ( P )
Pronunciation Key (ds-mt)
tr.v. dec·i·mat·ed, dec·i·mat·ing, dec·i·mates

1. To destroy or kill a large part of (a group).
2. Usage Problem.
1. To inflict great destruction or damage on: The fawns decimated my rose bushes.
2. To reduce markedly in amount: a profligate heir who decimated his trust fund.
3. To select by lot and kill one in every ten

646 posted on 12/04/2004 5:26:30 PM PST by steve86
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To: A Navy Vet

Fascism is an economic system. IMNSHO, the correct term to use is "Islamic totalitarianism." We must be precise in the terms used, because if we do not insist on that precision, our arguments will be cheapened."

Bingo! We have a winner.


647 posted on 12/04/2004 5:27:17 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: BearWash
Originally, yes.

Usage Note: Decimate originally referred to the killing of every tenth person, a punishment used in the Roman army for mutinous legions. Today this meaning is commonly extended to include the killing of any large proportion of a group. Sixty-six percent of the Usage Panel accepts this extension in the sentence The Jewish population of Germany was decimated by the war, even though it is common knowledge that the number of Jews killed was much greater than a tenth of the original population. However, when the meaning is further extended to include large-scale destruction other than killing, as in The supply of fresh produce was decimated by the nuclear accident at Chernobyl, only 26 percent of the Panel accepts the usage.

648 posted on 12/04/2004 5:27:57 PM PST by steve86
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To: Final Authority

A question that needs to be asked is, if the allies had the precision weapons we have today would they of bombed the way they did?


651 posted on 12/04/2004 5:30:51 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: airborne

Our newer conventional stuff is more fearsome than nukes, in many cases.


652 posted on 12/04/2004 5:35:44 PM PST by txhurl
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To: BearWash

"only 26 percent of the Panel accepts the usage."

A panel is another form of mob. Do you know how to determine the IQ of a mob? Take the IQ of the member with the lowest IQ, and divide by the number of people in the mob.

It is a Latin root with a precise meaning. Deciliters, decimate... Even if nearly 2/3rd of the panel accepted that other meaning.


654 posted on 12/04/2004 5:52:18 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: tacticalogic

You need to create an "About" page. Anyone with that tagline must be an interesting person.


655 posted on 12/04/2004 5:58:17 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: Javelina

You mean telling the followers of a cult with a death wish that you are going to kill them won't work?

Mohammad was the most cunning, evil creature of all time. Read his biography, click Fred Nerks on tagline for link to pdf.

To understand islam, first we must understand the motives of its evil 'prophet' and secondly, we must be UNITED in our efforts to overcome it. To date, all we have achieved is exactly what Osama Bin Laden wants - dissent amongst ourselves.


657 posted on 12/04/2004 6:03:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (understand evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD on pdf. Click Fred Nerks for link.)
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To: Lutonian

"The most sensible post I have read on this thread yet."

Thanks. It's sort of like the Lemmings thread, isn't it? As my mom used to say, "If all the kids at school jumped off a cliff, would you jump, too?"


658 posted on 12/04/2004 6:06:09 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: txflake

Like OLD BLUE,, BLU 82 or the M.O.A.B


659 posted on 12/04/2004 6:10:00 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Blue Jays

Ping to read later


660 posted on 12/04/2004 6:11:50 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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