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The Proper Function Of Government
12/3/04

Posted on 12/03/2004 8:20:06 PM PST by jonestown

It is generally agreed that the most important single function of government is to secure the rights and freedoms of individual citizens. But, what are those rights?
And what is their source?

Until these questions are answered there is little likelihood that we can correctly determine how government can best secure them. Thomas Paine, back in the days of the American Revolution, explained that:

"Rights are not gifts from one man to another, nor from one class of men to another... It is impossible to discover any origin of rights otherwise than in the origin of man; it consequently follows that rights appertain to man in right of his existence, and must therefore be equal to every man."

Starting at the foundation of the pyramid, let us first consider the origin of those freedoms we have come to know are human rights.

We must ever keep in mind the inspired words of Thomas Jefferson, as found in the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

Since man was created with certain unalienable rights, and man, in turn, created government to help secure and safeguard those rights, it follows that man is superior to the creature which he created.
Man is superior to government and should remain master over it, not the other way around. Even the non-believer can appreciate the logic of this relationship.

The Source Of Governmental Power

It is obvious that a government is nothing more or less than a relatively small group of citizens who have been hired, in a sense, by the rest of us to perform certain functions and discharge certain responsibilities which have been authorized.
It stands to reason that the government itself has no innate power or privilege to do anything.
Its only source of authority and power is from the people who have created it. This is made clear in the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States, which reads:
"WE THE PEOPLE... do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The important thing to keep in mind is that the people in mind is that the people who have created their government can give to that government only such powers as they, themselves, have in the first place.
Obviously, they cannot give that which they do not possess.
So, the question boils down to this. What powers properly belong to each and every person in the absence of and prior to the establishment of any organized governmental form? A hypothetical question? Yes, indeed! But, it is a question which is vital to an understanding of the principles which underlie the proper function of government.

Of course, as James Madison, sometimes called the Father of the Constitution, said, "If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary."

Natural Rights

In a primitive state, there is no doubt that each man would be justified in using force, if necessary, to defend himself against physical harm, against theft of the fruits of his labor, and against enslavement of another. This principle was clearly explained by Bastiat:

"Each of us has a natural right - to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. For what are our faculties but the extension of our individuality? And what is property but and extension of our faculties?"

Indeed, the early pioneers found that a great deal of their time and energy was being spent doing all three - defending themselves, their property and their liberty - in what properly was called the "Lawless West."
In order for man to prosper, he cannot afford to spend his time constantly guarding his family, his fields, and his property against attach and theft, so he joins together with his neighbors and hires a sheriff.
At this precise moment, government is born.
The individual citizens delegate to the sheriff their unquestionable right to protect themselves. The sheriff now does for them only what they had a right to do for themselves - nothing more.

Quoting again from Bastiat:
"If every person has the right to defend - even by force - his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right --its reason for existing, its lawfulness -- is based on individual right."

So far so good. But now we come to the moment of truth.
Suppose pioneer "A" wants another horse for his wagon, He doesn't have the money to buy one, but since pioneer "B" has an extra horse, he decides that he is entitled to share in his neighbor's good fortune, Is he entitled to take his neitake his neighbor's horse? Obviously not! If his neighbor wishes to give it or lend it, that is another question. But so long as pioneer "B" wishes to keep his property, pioneer "A" has no just claim to it.

If "A" has no proper power to take "B's" property, can he delegate any such power to the sheriff? No. Even if everyone in the community desires that "B" give his extra horse to "A", they have no right individually or collectively to force him to do it.
They cannot delegate a power they themselves do not have. This important principle was clearly understood and explained by John Locke nearly 300 years ago:

"For nobody can transfer to another more power than he has in himself, and nobody has an absolute arbitrary power over himself, or over any other, to destroy his own life, or take away the life of property of another."

The Proper Function Of Government

This means, then, that the proper function of government is limited only to those spheres of activity within which the individual citizen has the right to act.
By deriving its just powers from the governed, government becomes primarily a mechanism for defense against bodily harm, theft and involuntary servitude. It cannot claim the power to redistribute the wealth or force reluctant citizens to perform acts of charity against their will.

Government is created by man. - Noted, - by man.
No man possesses such power to delegate. The creature cannot exceed the creator.
In general terms, therefore, the proper role of government includes such defensive activities, as maintaining national military and local police forces for protection against loss of life, loss of property, and loss of liberty at the hands of either foreign despots or domestic criminals.

The Powers Of A Proper Government

It also includes those powers necessarily incidental to the protective functions such as:

(1) The maintenance of courts where those charged with crimes may be tried and where disputes between citizens may be impartially settled.

(2) The establishment of a monetary system and a standard of weights and measures so that courts may render money judgments, taxing authorities may levy taxes, and citizens may have a uniform standard to use in their business dealings.

My attitude toward government is succinctly expressed by the following provision taken from the Alabama Constitution:

"That the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression." (Art. 1, Sec. 35)

An important test I use in passing judgment upon an act of government is this:
If it were up to me as an individual to punish my neighbor for violating a given law, would it offend my conscience to do so?
Since my conscience will never permit me to physically punish my fellow man unless he has done something evil, or unless he has failed to do something which I have a moral right to require of him to do, I will never knowingly authorize my agent, the government to do this on my behalf.

I realize that when I give my consent to the adoption of a law, I specifically instruct the police - the government - to take either the life, liberty, or property of anyone who disobeys that law. Furthermore, I tell them that if anyone resists the enforcement of the law, they are to use any means necessary - yes, even putting the lawbreaker to death or putting him in jail - to overcome such resistance.
These are extreme measures but unless laws are enforced, anarchy results. As John Locke explained many years ago:

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom. For in all the states of created beings, capable of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom. For liberty is to be free from restraint and violence from others, which cannot be where there is no law; and is not, as we are told, 'a liberty for every man to do what he lists.' For who could be free, when every other man's humour might domineer over him? But a liberty to dispose and order freely as he lists his person, actions, possessions, and his whole property within erty within the allowance of those laws under which he is, and therein not to be subject to the arbitrary will of another, but freely follow his own."

I believe we Americans should use extreme care before lending our support to any proposed government program.
We should fully recognize that government is no plaything.
As George Washington warned, "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence - it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master!"
It is an instrument of force and unless our conscience is clear that we would not hesitate to put a man to death, put him in jail or forcibly deprive him of his property for failing to obey a given law, we should oppose it.


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To: jonestown

Go ahead, pick any single thing from the original post and that can be discussed, but some scattershot all-encompassing essay gets us nowhere. It's not even a proper essay.


41 posted on 12/05/2004 11:16:49 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: jonestown
It is generally agreed that the most important single function of government is to secure the rights and freedoms of individual citizens.

Should the gubmint "secure" them for us, or should it keep as much as possible out of our lives so we can secure our own?

42 posted on 12/05/2004 11:22:31 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: RightWhale
Bandaneira:
I believe the primary role of governemnt is to create safety for its citizens.







Yes, in spite of the obvious sentiment of anarchy of the original poster, the purpose of the state is primarily the protection of the individual from the power of any group.
36

This hodgepodge babble has been posted before.
37RightWhale






What exactly do you consider "hodgepodge babble" about any of the ideas set forth?
39 jonestown






Go ahead, pick any single thing from the original post and that can be discussed, but some scattershot all-encompassing essay gets us nowhere.
It's not even a proper essay.
41 RightWhale






You found it an interesting enough essay to comment on Bandaneira's reaction, yet you call it "babble" in the next post, and say it gets us nowhere.
-- I don't understand, - where do you want to go?
43 posted on 12/06/2004 8:02:24 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: k2blader
"It is generally agreed that the most important single function of government is to secure the rights and freedoms of individual citizens."






Should the gubmint "secure" them for us, or should it keep as much as possible out of our lives so we can secure our own?
42 k2blader






I agree with our author that government is bound by the Constitution to keep out of our lives.
He writes:

"This means, then, that the proper function of government is limited only to those spheres of activity within which the individual citizen has the right to act."

--- "I believe it a violation of the Constitution for government to deprive the individual of either life, liberty, or property except for these purposes:

(a) Punish crime and provide for the administration of justice;

(b) Protect the right and control of private property;

(c) Wage defensive war and provide for the nation's defense;

(d) Compel each one who enjoys the protection of government to bear his fair share of the burden of performing the above functions."
44 posted on 12/06/2004 8:23:03 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: jonestown

I'd settle for securing titles and directing traffic.


45 posted on 12/06/2004 8:25:11 AM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: Old Professer

"If it were up to me as an individual to punish my neighbor for violating a given law, would it offend my conscience to do so?
Since my conscience will never permit me to physically punish my fellow man unless he has done something evil, or unless he has failed to do something which I have a moral right to require of him to do, I will never knowingly authorize my agent, the government to do this on my behalf."


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Old Professer wrote:

I'd settle for securing titles and directing traffic.






"Securing titles"?


46 posted on 12/06/2004 8:46:36 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: jonestown
It is generally agreed that the most important single function of government is to secure the rights and freedoms of individual citizens.

Your first mistake is assuming that most people agree with you.

Your second mistake is believing that government is the protector of individual freedom. Instead, government is one of the greatest enemies to individual freedom. Even this country's Founding Fathers knew this; for example, Benjamin Franklin said, "The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve, nor will he ever receive either."

47 posted on 12/06/2004 8:55:35 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: jonestown

Is that your selection? The purpose of the State?


48 posted on 12/06/2004 10:13:18 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: jonestown
Thanks for posting this.

Don't be bothered by the posters knocking you. It is true that you're supposed to give a link to the article's source. But I strongly suspect the reason they're taking such issue is because they don't like what your article said, and they absolutely refuse to discuss the issues.

I am fully convinced that if the founder's ideas you posted were postulated today by 'unknowns', these posters would consider those ideas as alien and seditious. They will not come out and say so because they are governed by the Cult of Personality, and the founders still have too much clout for them to outright attack.

49 posted on 12/06/2004 10:26:42 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: jonestown

bump for later consideration... looks like truth!


50 posted on 12/06/2004 10:30:39 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: jonestown

Protect our shores and borders, deliver the mail and stay out of our business are the proper functions of government.


51 posted on 12/06/2004 10:38:55 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup


" -- It is generally agreed that the most important single function of government is to secure the rights and freedoms of individual citizens."
ETB

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Your first mistake is assuming that most people agree with you.
Jesup


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I agree, along with the author, that protecting individual rights is the main function of government, and that our Constitution so mandates.
jones





Your second mistake is believing that government is the protector of individual freedom.
Jesup





I believe, like you, and the author, that government is one of our "greatest enemies to individual freedom".

And yes, even this country's Founding Fathers knew this; for example, Benjamin Franklin said, "The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve, nor will he ever receive either." --- Where did you get the idea that I would disagree?


52 posted on 12/06/2004 11:34:56 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: RightWhale

RightWhale wrote:

Is that your selection? The purpose of the State?






Sure it is. - Is there something wrong about discussing:

'The Proper Function Of Government'?


53 posted on 12/06/2004 11:41:08 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: jonestown
Where did you get the idea that I would disagree?

Because I though you wrote the original article and that this is a 'vanity' thread.

Next time, post the name and link to the person who wrote it.

54 posted on 12/06/2004 11:42:01 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: freeeee

Thanks for posting this.

Don't be bothered by the posters knocking you. It is true that you're supposed to give a link to the article's source. But I strongly suspect the reason they're taking such issue is because they don't like what your article said, and they absolutely refuse to discuss the issues.

I am fully convinced that if the founder's ideas you posted were postulated today by 'unknowns', these posters would consider those ideas as alien and seditious.
They will not come out and say so because they are governed by the Cult of Personality, and the founders still have too much clout for them to outright attack.
49 freeeee






Thanks. The 'unknown' factor is indeed the reason I didn't credit the author, Ezra Taft Benson.

I don't agree with Benson in every detail on the "Proper Role", but in general, his 1968 essay is one of the greatest ever written on the subject, imho.

The Proper Role of Government by Ezra Taft Benson
Address:http://www.zionsbest.com/proper_role.html Changed:11:51 AM on Monday, December 6, 2004


55 posted on 12/06/2004 11:54:15 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

You admit that ideas & words don't count unless we know who wrote them?


56 posted on 12/06/2004 11:57:19 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: jonestown

You are the one who post this article without references.


57 posted on 12/06/2004 12:04:35 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: jonestown
I recognize your style, feel like disclosing your previous screenname?

Good post however.

58 posted on 12/06/2004 12:16:00 PM PST by Protagoras (Government exists to defend rights, nothing more.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

As I explained before, - I thought it would be interesting to see the reaction to a great conservative essay, without mentioning the authors name. -- The posting page allows that to be done, "without references".

What's the harm in posting a piece that stresses principle over politics and challenging others to debate the ideas, not the personalities?


59 posted on 12/06/2004 12:21:05 PM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: jonestown
As I explained before, - I thought it would be interesting to see the reaction to a great conservative essay, without mentioning the authors name. -- The posting page allows that to be done, "without references".

What's the harm in posting a piece that stresses principle over politics and challenging others to debate the ideas, not the personalities?

If you know who wrote it then you don't know whether they mean it or they are just 'preaching to the choir', making them hear what they want to hear.

60 posted on 12/06/2004 12:35:15 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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