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Caution: Too Much Science May Make You Religious
Chabad ^ | Nov. 2004 | Velvl Greene

Posted on 12/01/2004 6:06:21 PM PST by yonif

Before birth, a baby lives in its mother’s womb surrounded by water. It doesn’t breathe. Its lungs are collapsed, folded between the two upper chambers of the heart. There’s a hole in its heart so the blood circulates. And there’s a tube connecting the aorta to the pulmonary artery.

Within ten minutes of birth, its lungs have to expand, the hole in its heart has to heal, the tube has to seal off.

In fact, 67 different steps have to happen in sequence so that the baby can go from a creature that lives in water to an oxygen-breathing baby. Miraculously, these things take place routinely every minute of every day.

That is science, when we understand what happens. And we know that no human being or scientist could have developed or engineered this sequence. If a company tried to build it, it wouldn’t work.

Indeed, if we knew what goes on in our very own lives, if we knew what goes on in the birth of a baby, we would get on our knees and thank G-d forever. All of the vast scientific studies that have been made over the past hundred years keep pointing to the concept of order and sequence, and therefore, in my opinion, a creator.

A professor of mathematics came into my study one day. He was a real atheist. He said to me, “I’ve just calculated that it’s impossible to have the human eye evolving in the five billion years that they give us.” He said, “The person who believes in evolution, that is the person making the leap of faith.”

Science doesn’t contradict the Torah. Science teaches us that when the Torah says, “I have created the world,” “I will care for you,” “I will heal you,” and “I will provide,” you know what? G-d was right. In 1998 it was reported for the first time in human history that enough food has been grown to feed every living person on the planet. Theoretically, no one on this earth should have to starve. And there’s a statement in Psalms that says, “You open your hands and you give to all living things its need.” G-d has provided. And that’s what science says: You know what? He was right. When a doctor heals a patient, that’s what science says: You know what? He was right. G-d has provided.

There has never been a rabbi who has ever said to a scientist, “stop searching.” There’s never been a rabbi who has said, “quit looking.” Because the ultimate believer of truth, and the Torah is all truth, will ultimately believe that anything you find in nature that is true will reflect and react to the glory of G-d.

When I was younger, I worked for the NASA program. And I looked for life on Mars. We spent hundreds of millions of dollars looking for life on Mars -- for which, if you haven’t been thanked as taxpayers before, let me thank you. During that time I asked the Lubavitcher Rebbe, “Is this right? Can I really do this? Other religions say you shouldn’t search. And the Torah doesn’t say there’s life on Mars.” The Rebbe replied in Yiddish, “Professor Green, you should look for life on Mars. And if you don’t find it there, you should look elsewhere. And if you don’t find it there, you should look elsewhere. Because for you to sit here and say that G-d didn't create life elsewhere is to put limits on G-d, and no one can do that.”


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To: Fester Chugabrew
And how much of these given the absence of any intelligence?

Given it's Fester "trying" to understand it, you ain't gonna. So what?

21 posted on 12/01/2004 7:14:00 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: yonif

Tomorrow AM, if I may, I will post to you a parable of seven sons and seven gifts. Your nice post of the Sovereign's providence reminded me of it...


22 posted on 12/01/2004 7:15:08 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: VadeRetro

That wasn't very nice.


23 posted on 12/01/2004 7:16:18 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
The science of not getting things wears thin.
24 posted on 12/01/2004 7:18:10 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro

I forgive you.


25 posted on 12/01/2004 7:19:10 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
It's a free country.
26 posted on 12/01/2004 7:20:59 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro

Good thing, to be sure.


27 posted on 12/01/2004 7:22:45 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: VadeRetro
For the last, maybe a quarter billion years after life goes multi-cellular.

My bad. That's for the first eyes, not for human eyes. But then human eyes are only so-so.

28 posted on 12/01/2004 7:56:04 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: Marie
It was my love of human biology and physics that convinced me that God existed. Every time I look at the math I have a feeling of profound respect for our Creator.

There are four things that do it for me:

  1. In biology: Chirality in embryonic development.

    How does a developing fetus know that the aorta belongs on the left, and the liver on the right? Why are half of us not mirror images of the other half? There is nothing in science which explains this.

  2. In complex analysis: the equation e(pi*i)+1=0

    Here is a beautiful little equation that combines all the important constants of higher mathematics: 'e', the base of natural logarithms; 'pi', the well-known constant relating a circle's radius to its circumference and area; 'i', the square root of -1 that makes complex analysis possible; and '1' and '0', unity and nullity, the bases of binary arithmetic, and so much else.

    'e' and 'pi' are not just irrational numbers, they are transcendent numbers, which means they are not roots of any polynomial equation with rational coefficients. It seems inconceivable that they should have any relation to each other that could be expressed in such a simple equation-- yet they do!

  3. In arithmetic and geometry: the Golden Mean and the Fibonacci sequence.

    Take the polynomial x2-x-1=0. Its positive root 1+sqrt(5)/2 = 1.618... This is 'phi', another irrational (but not transcendent) number of great significance. This number pops up over and over again in nature.

    If you draw a rectangle with one side that is 'phi' times the length of the other side, and you cut a square off it or construct a square on the longest side, then the new rectangle will also have one side that is 'phi' times longer than the other. This is the Golden Rectangle, and the Parthenon in Athens is constructed to its proportions.

    Inscribe a spiral within the boundaries of the shrinking rectangles, and out pops the geometric figure describing everything from DNA to a snail shell to the Milky Way Galaxy.


    (From http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/emt669/Student.Folders/Frietag.Mark/Homepage/Goldenratio/goldenratio.html)

    If you start with a square of size 1, as you add squares you will find their sizes follow the sequence 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21... where each number is the sum of the two preceding it. This is the famous Fibonacci sequence and is related to everything from the number of rabbits breeding from an original pair, to the number of ears of corn on a stalk.

  4. From physics: Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism.

    And God said,


    And there was light!

    (From http://home.usit.net/~cmdaven/electro.htm).

There are many other examples of the handiwork of an Intelligence surpassing all others. These are my favorites.

-ccm

29 posted on 12/01/2004 8:07:33 PM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: ccmay

Mathematics is the language of God.


30 posted on 12/01/2004 8:52:57 PM PST by Capriole
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To: TexasGreg

Ping


31 posted on 12/01/2004 9:01:40 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: yonif
I've always loved this little story told to me by a minister years ago:

A teacher was speaking to students when he mentioned God. One of the students raised his hand and said "there is no God". The teacher asked him, "do you know everything that there is to know?"

The student said, "well no".

The teacher then said, "Do you know half of everything there is to know?"

The student said...."well no".

Then the teacher said, " let's say you do know half of everything there is to know, do you think it possible that God may exist in the half that you don't know?"

32 posted on 12/01/2004 9:19:46 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: yonif

I work in research biochemistry and molecular biology. I work with DNA, and I often see it recombine and mutate over time. I believe in evolution. And I totally believe that it is God's creation. God created science, and science gives us a picture of God's greatness.


33 posted on 12/01/2004 9:24:22 PM PST by mysterio
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To: yonif
Isn't that beautiful?

G-d gave us all incredible, though so comparatively limited, intelligence. And intellectual curiosity. Every work that man creates, every new step in understanding our world, every new invention, was G-d allowing us to be a small partner in His creation. G-d leaves it to us to choose how this wondrous power will be used, and trusts (hopes?) that we will always choose wisely.

34 posted on 12/01/2004 9:26:00 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: totallyOwned
Irreducible complexity of the human eye has already been disproven.

Only to the faithful Darwinists out there. Others simply appreciate the wonders of design. The wonders of science are there to be seen. Faith is its own measure. If you choose to not believe or to believe in God there is more than enough evidence for Creation. Biological diversity is going down not up. The moon is an unstable balance that cannot last millions of years, the rate of rotational decline of the earth, why don't all creatures have dozens of appendages that are random evolutions that don't work but are there anyway? Everything I see is finished designs, not works in progress.

But a person will argue that they were not speeding yesterday when the radar clocked them at 90, and if they do it long enough, they will believe it. People tend to believe what they want, and build excuses from there. Its called justification, not science.

In the end, you will believe what you want and be judged for it. It is a fair system.

35 posted on 12/01/2004 9:36:45 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: bjs1779
Well, I can only say that the more educated I become, the more I believe in God. Which God? I know, I know, I'm stepping into the intellectual molasses when I say such a thing. I mean simply that it appears that a supreme intelligence has engineered reality as we experience it. I would like to think that this God has his roots in the Bible, but I don't want to overflow with wishful thinking. It is as easy to pick apart the Bible without context as it is Darwinism, so I'm not looking to make any enemies tonight.
36 posted on 12/01/2004 9:45:26 PM PST by ashtanga
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To: ccmay
This is a beautiful example of intelligence that surpasses my understanding! -grin-

I am not a mathematician, I am an outdoor type. I spent years as a prospector, a logger etc. Nothing quite like seeing the incredible order in nature, to bring an appreciation for the Creator for me.

It is like the difference between the Metric and the Imperial measurement system. Metric was conceived by people who do not work with their hands but with numbers on paper. A man who works with his hands builds in quarters and thirds. He uses his hands and feet to measure with, his eye to balance. While metric works great on paper, it is an aesthetic looser when building a cabinet, or a house.

The example of the snail shell is an example of imperial building, it being built by a rotating rectangle of increasing size. It is partly why it is so ascetically pleasing.

It also is a simple clue that the design is one of a creator rather than random. Mathematics favors metric. While creation favors esthetic's.
37 posted on 12/01/2004 9:48:13 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Dog; Coop; Cap Huff

Amen ping.

--Boot Hill


38 posted on 12/01/2004 11:09:58 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: yonif

Good one


39 posted on 12/02/2004 12:26:32 AM PST by quietolong
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To: American in Israel

-----The example of the snail shell is an example of imperial building, it being built by a rotating rectangle of increasing size. It is partly why it is so ascetically pleasing.------

I recall hearing someone saying how the wonder of creation may not even be in the creation itself. It is WHY do we look upon the earth and moon and stars with such awe and wonder and look upon it as good and beutiful?


40 posted on 12/02/2004 12:36:49 AM PST by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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