Posted on 11/30/2004 9:14:15 AM PST by cainin04
Over the past days there has been a great discussion about the role of the theory of evolution and whether it alone or the thoughts on Intellegent Design should be taught in schools.
I made the argument that Darwinsism attempts to replace God. "If you have Darwinism there is no need for God the Creator." But many of the Free Republic members disagreed.
Read the text from this recent text book used today in public schools and draw your own conclusions. I found this in Lee Stroble's "Case for a Creator."
Futuyma Douglas author of "Evolutionary Biology"--page 3--"By coupling undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superflous."
The book "Sign of Intellegence" cites several of the other popular text books. The writers cite the terms used to describe evolution; "evolution is random and undirected,"without plan or purpose,"Darwin gave biology a sound scientific basis by attributing the diversity of life to natural causes rather than the supernatural creation."
Stroble also cites an article from Time Magazine, "Charles Darwin didn't want to murder God, as he once put it. But he did."
One can read text book after text book, they all come to the same conclusion--Darwin replaced God.
Why then is a theory that has so many holes in it, still being taught as "fact?" Many excuses could be listed, but I would say it is just part of the liberal establishment trying to remove God from our schools and our country as a whole. In history class we can't read the "Declaration of ID" or say the Pledge of Allegiance, because they mention God; in English we can't read a story from the Bible, because that is seperation of church and state--yet we CAN read other religous materials as long as they are not Christian; and of course in science class we can't mention ID because that would include God.
Americans are going to have to stand up. We can not sit back and watch these atheistic liberals have every mention of God removed from our country. If we do stand up, not only will we produce children who have no understanding of our country, our history, or our values, but we will also see our nation fall into a great moral decline.
However, I do not think we are going to allow that to occur. In this last election we had a clear choice between a man of God--a man with values--and a man with little or no values. We chose the man with values. The fight will continue and Patriotic-God loving Americans can never give in. Read what is in your child's text books and if it attempts to remove God, speak out against it. Your voice matters--it matters not just for your child's sake, but for the sake of all America's citizens.
It's evidently clear who's afraid of the Truth!
Are you also saying that God stops a population from further adapting to its environment, resulting in its eventual extinction?
I haven't time to read the whole thread now, so I may be echoing others, but who does this guy think thought up this ingenious plan, whereby life adapts to change? Just the way the human body adapts to change--in diet, environment, injury, illness, etc. There is a lesson in creation and how it works. It is not a one-time-only thing and then finished. Neither are our lives. We don't get off the hook that easy, and besides, that's what makes it all interesting. I'd like to meet the one who invented evolution sometime.
"Sometimes made mistakes."
That's the difference in our views. No need to belabor the other points. That's the only one that matters.
Only when they want to prop up said texts in a SCIENCE CLASSROOM. Wonder how you guys would feel if WE came to YOUR church and insisted everyone read Evolution of Species, because "all the alternatives to Creation should be explored"?
But, yes, Darwinism is Anti-God. It calls God a liar. Plain and simple.
No. Some people that believe in evolution are atheists. Some are quite spiritual (perhaps even more than YOU! -gasp-). The theory itself, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIFE'S ORIGIN, also has nothing to do with God. As do ALL scientific theories.
You don't have a leg to stand on. I don't think anyone disputes that God inspired the Bible, and that God is perfect.
God is perfect, but he used imperfect men to accomplish His goal. He doesn't make us work against our nature.
Nope. Lots of people do.
The Great Flood that Moses survived, its a term of endearment that I've been using for as far as I remember.
Yes they are of a kind. There is no dispute that adaptations take place. I refer to those adaptations as micro-evolution.
Fair enough. I'm not Christian, but I do believe the Bible relates the spiritual concepts it's meant to illustrate. And, as prviously mentioned, the two are not mutually exclusive.
I do. The first, at least; I don't consider it worthwhile to contest the attributes of a being whose very existence is unproven.
Like I said, you have no leg to stand on and that was self-evident in your nonsensical response. God is perfect and does everything perfectly. Yes the humans are imperfect, but God's inspiration to write the Chapters of the Bible was perfectly done.
Humanists have always tried to replace God with themselves.
So, if enough adaptations crop up in one, separate population, of a species, such that it is no longer genetically compatible with other populations, wouldn't this be "macro-evolution?"
I will pray for you.
Knock yourself out.
According to the Old Testament, Pi is equal to EXACTLY 3.
Now, either the human beings writing the Bible got that wrong, or God did.
Who screwed up there, please?
Yes the humans are imperfect, but God's inspiration to write the Chapters of the Bible was perfectly done.
See above. Somewhere, somebody hosed a galley proof. Who do we blame? The scribes, or God Himself?
IMHO, it does not. If that were true, wouldn't we have a lot of weird fossils? Wouldn't the DNA fo the elephant be like or similar to an ant?
Many people believe that God throws a red herring once in a while, just to test our faith. Another red herring, the Big Bang!
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