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Iraqi Forces: "Just Pitiful" AOL News Headline
AOL News ^ | 11-30-04 | Richard Oppel and James Glanz

Posted on 11/30/2004 7:58:42 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

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To: Blowtorch

True - they deserve an opportunity; I am in awe of many Iraqis who stand up to the terrorists knowing they are targets - hopefully that will rub off on the general population.


41 posted on 11/30/2004 4:04:20 PM PST by matchwood
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To: My Favorite Headache

I think it's time to get honest about Islam and about Muslims.

Their fear of fellow Islamist assassins is far more of a behavior modifier than is their desire for anything that represents another view of "the human race".

If an idea wasn't thought of by Mohammed, then it is an "infidel" idea. Islam has the clerical and killer staff that will enforce "submission" to Mohammed. Infidel ideas are punishable under Islam by physical violence. It is part of their Islamic cult/religion.

Muslims have no desire to challenge the Islamic clerics and the Islamic killers. In Islam--there is NO such notion as people being born with "inalienable rights", endowed by Allah.

In Islam, there is only enforcement by physical threats to each person and their family. That is why Iraq is a waste of our energy. The Iraqis, mostly, have no stomach to fight for inalienable rights--they prefer to submit to the thug.

We should give all our energy and commitment to those who care--the Kurds--and protect them by staying stationed in Kurdistan. And to those who need to care--the Kuwaitis, who will be subject to the 'next Saddam' who is probably only a few years away from ruling again.

Pull our forces north and south and let the Sunnis and Shia and Wahhabis and Saudis and Islamists use Iraq as their playground. The "average Iraqi" deserves no more.


42 posted on 11/30/2004 6:23:23 PM PST by jolie560
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I agree with you. 1 year tops, but we'll know in 6 months. right now, these iraqi police can't even figure out that when they line up for any reason - they need to keep cars away from the area, what is it about the phrase "car bomb" that they do not understand requires use of a car?

if our current attempts fail, we may well need an "organized" civil war there - with the goal of slapping the Sunnis down hard.


43 posted on 11/30/2004 6:31:09 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Tallguy
"Are you suggesting that Iraqi/Arab culture is somehow stonger due to their primitive ways and ruthlessness?"

Not stronger. Less enlightened. More primitive. Less able to function coherently in a modern technological world. Being blind to the advantages of modern civilization doesn't make one stronger, it makes one stupider and more boneheaded.

Strapping an explosive to oneself and blowing up innocent people isn't 'strong', it's stupid and cruel. That is what Arab Muslims are, to greater or lesser extent.
44 posted on 12/01/2004 9:34:01 AM PST by monday
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