Skip to comments.Iraqi Forces: "Just Pitiful" AOL News Headline
Posted on 11/30/2004 7:58:42 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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U.S. Officials Say Iraq's Forces Founder Under Rebel Assaults
FoxNew's Steve Harrigan said this morning that the Iraqi police only show up on PayDay. As much as we want to be out of that place, probably not going to happen for 10 years.. We can not make the mistakes we did with Germany though. They have got to learn they have to stand up and defend themselves. Yet, to achieve a reformed Middle East, we need to park ourselves there as long as necessary. IMO>
Iraq is an artificial country -- an amalgam of Shia, Sunni & Kurds. So here's my solution: form cohesive battalions from each grouping and post those battalions away from home. Call it the "Roman Solution". A Kurdish soldier will be more effective in nailing down an area of Baghdad if he knows that the Bad Guys that he is operating against can't get to his family up in Mosul.
Otherwise known as the "John Edwards" approach to combat.
....plus the US Commander can always threaten the locals with the 'unleashing' of the Iraqi Battalions in his area.
:) hehehe.. so true..
For a deeper study of endemic problems among Arab forces, see Ken Pollack's "Arabs At War":
Intersting concept. I hope Rummy is lurking.
Media and Liberals yelling in unison: AND WE HELPED!
--Taken from old Shake N Bake Commercial
A police officer is a person who does the work of law enforcement on behalf of the citizens who are otherwise busy making a living.
Because they are busy, they employ someone from among themselves, to act on their behalf, in the office of police, as a police officer.
The people are sovereign and are the source of all police powers, in addition to themselves holding, as individual responsible, able bodied citizens, police powers with which to act and enforce the law, in the absence of the police officer when he or she is not present, not on the scene, yet the people may also act in accordance with the laws, to enforce the law, even when the police officer is on the scene.
If you're thinking "citizens arrest," yes, that is one example.
The power and authority of the people, is something that is our right, and it is a right not granted to us by any constitution.
The common law bypassed the Constitution at the founding of the United States; the police powers, within the common law, being those of the States and therein, the counties and communities.
So much authority, in the hands of the people, in contrast with people who argue for socialist dictatorships in one form or another, on the absolutists' "grounds" that "you cannot take the law into your own hands."
Well, it, the law, is in the hands of the people of the States, of the United States of America. It is our duty to make good law, to enforce the law, and to do so even at risk of death, in order to preserve liberty; you might say, every day, we fight for freedom.
All that, is part of what it means to be an American, and it is felt and believed by enough people around the world, who may not be American citizens, but they are determined, and self-determined, and disciplined (educated) and self-discplined, enough, to stand up and take risks that are awesome, in the face of tyranny and terror.
The Iraqis need encouragement, in these things, what we sometimes call, moral support.
In my humble opinion, this realization of the duties of maintaining the peace and freedom, is the one thing that the "mainstream news media" a.k.a. "liberal media" are most out to prevent, by blocking the communications between Americans at home and Americans abroad, and people who are suffering under terrorists abroad yet they take heart by what it means to, again, stand up and be American.
If that means death to tyrants, so it shall be, for their daring to impose their rule on the heads and shoulders and hearts of people who wish to be free.
The spirit of independence, cannot be taken away, yet it can be battered among people who are not organized, who are not resolved, to fight.
We, fortunately, are born, resolved.
With pen or sword or both, be resolute.
So, the Iraqi forces don't want to defend themselves and your response is that we should stay in that Bosinia writ large where are men and women and being picked off one by one? What do you hope to accomplish, other than a continued slow bleed?
Let's see, how long were the Brits there, 40 years before they decided to go home?
I have great admiration for President Bush however I am not nearly as optimistic about "changing the political dynamics in the Middle East through free elections."
Thanks for the ping!
Saddam already perfected that method.
Seems the Iraqies always surrender! Same way they fought against us! I don't understand why it would be expected to change.
Better solution - divide this "artificial" country into three states "officially" Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites. Install governors in each (by appointment or elections) then have a Federal City - Bagdad - for financial and judicial administration -made up of representatives from each state. Enlist reservists for security in each of those states - I think there will be more dedication and troop morale for a Sunni to protect his own from the foreign insurgents.
I realize this. But it is the stated policy of the US to make Iraq an independent & democratic country. The first requirement is to keep Iraq unified. So our first requirement happens to be the same as Saddam's.
Just because we borrow an ancient tactic doesn't mean that we are going to adopt Saddam's methods wholesale.
Compared to WHAT..??..
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