Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Israel shocked by image of soldiers forcing violinist to play at roadblock
The Guardian ^ | 11/29/04 | Chris McGreal

Posted on 11/28/2004 6:19:02 PM PST by LibWhacker

Edited on 11/28/2004 6:23:13 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Of all the revelations that have rocked the Israeli army over the past week, perhaps none disturbed the public so much as the video footage of soldiers forcing a Palestinian man to play his violin.

The incident was not as shocking as the recording of an Israeli officer pumping the body of a 13-year-old girl full of bullets and then saying he would have shot her even if she had been three years old.

Nor was it as nauseating as the pictures in an Israeli newspaper of ultra-orthodox soldiers mocking Palestinian corpses by impaling a man's head on a pole and sticking a cigarette in his mouth.

But the matter of the violin touched on something deeper about the way Israelis see themselves, and their conflict with the Palestinians.

The violinist, Wissam Tayem, was on his way to a music lesson near Nablus when he said an Israeli officer ordered him to "play something sad" while soldiers made fun of him. After several minutes, he was told he could pass.

It may be that the soldiers wanted Mr Tayem to prove he was indeed a musician walking to a lesson because, as a man under 30, he would not normally have been permitted through the checkpoint.

But after the incident was videotaped by Jewish women peace activists, it prompted revulsion among Israelis not normally perturbed about the treatment of Arabs.

The rightwing Army Radio commentator Uri Orbach found the incident disturbingly reminiscent of Jewish musicians forced to provide background music to mass murder. "What about Majdanek?" he asked, referring to the Nazi extermination camp.

The critics were not drawing a parallel between an Israeli roadblock and a Nazi camp. Their concern was that Jewish suffering had been diminished by the humiliation of Mr Tayem.

Yoram Kaniuk, author of a book about a Jewish violinist forced to play for a concentration camp commander, wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper that the soldiers responsible should be put on trial "not for abusing Arabs but for disgracing the Holocaust".

"Of all the terrible things done at the roadblocks, this story is one which negates the very possibility of the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. If [the military] does not put these soldiers on trial we will have no moral right to speak of ourselves as a state that rose from the Holocaust," he wrote.

"If we allow Jewish soldiers to put an Arab violinist at a roadblock and laugh at him, we have succeeded in arriving at the lowest moral point possible. Our entire existence in this Arab region was justified, and is still justified, by our suffering; by Jewish violinists in the camps."

Others took a broader view by drawing a link between the routine dehumanising treatment of Palestinians at checkpoints, the desecration of dead bodies and what looks very much like the murder of a terrified 13-year-old Palestinian girl by an army officer in Gaza.

Israelis put great store in a belief that their army is "the most moral in the world" because it says it adheres to a code of "the purity of arms". There is rarely much public questioning of the army's routine explanation that Palestinian civilians who have been killed had been "caught in crossfire", or that children are shot because they are used as cover by fighters.

But the public's confidence has been shaken by the revelations of the past week. The audio recording of the shooting of the 13-year-old, Iman al-Hams, prompted much soul searching, although the revulsion appears to be as much at the Israeli officer firing a stream of bullets into her lifeless body as the killing itself. Some soldiers told Israeli papers that their mothers had sought assurances that they did not do that kind of thing.

One Israeli peace group, the Arik Institute, took out large newspaper adverts to plead for "Jewish patriots" to "open your eyes and look around" at the suffering of Palestinians.

The incidents prompted the army to call in all commanders from the rank of lieutenant-colonel to emphasise the importance of maintaining the "purity of arms" code.

The army's critics say the real problem is not the behaviour of soldiers on the ground but the climate of impunity that emanates from the top.

While the officer responsible for killing Iman al-Hams has been charged with relatively minor offences, and the soldiers who forced the violinist to play were ticked off for being "insensitive", the only troops who were swiftly punished for violating regulations last week were some who posed naked in the snow for a photograph. They were dismissed from their unit.

Last week the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem criticised what it described as a "culture of impunity" within the army. The group says at least 1,656 Palestinian non-combatants have been killed during the intifada, including 529 children.

"To date, one soldier has been convicted of causing the death of a Palestinian," it said.

"The combination of rules of engagement that encourage a trigger-happy attitude among soldiers together with the climate of impunity results in a clear and very troubling message about the value the Israeli military places on Palestinian life."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; palestinian; soldiers; terrorists; violinist
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-154 next last
To: LibWhacker
But the lying Marxist fags at The Guardian have no problem with this:


41 posted on 11/28/2004 6:49:31 PM PST by Bars4Bill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Yeah, I kinda get hung up on this concept of 'professionalism'. Crash the bad guys, but don't antagonize the innocent. I'm trying to picture you playing a violin for over two minutes in La Guardia.

But geting back to my original post - I said it was nothing to have a cow about. It sounds like you're having a cow.


42 posted on 11/28/2004 6:50:30 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: M 91 u2 K
It is easy from the comfort of your keyboard to be shocked by how men will act when you put them in barbaric situations.

So therefore you condone the actions of the Israeli troops that put a man's head on a stick because they were in a barbaric situation?

When Iraqi insurgents do the same types of things do Americans do you just brush it off as well this is how men act in barbaric situations?

43 posted on 11/28/2004 6:50:56 PM PST by pete anderson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker
They will never understand until it happens to someone in their family or inner circle.

I watched a program on Sundance (nothing else on, not my favorite network) where a man was doing a documentary on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Of course it was anti-Israeli and he was interviewing all of the Palestinian supporters who were giving such a slanted view. He interviewed a female lawyer from Canada who was in Palestine working as an activist and of course she was giving all of the Palestinian talking points and he was lapping them up.

The next day he went to a check point just moments after a homicide bomber blew himself up (16 year old boy I believe) and saw the carnage and all of the mangled bodies. He changed his opinion in that instant. He went back to the Canadian lawyer and flat out told her that she was supporting the wrong cause because as long as people were blowing themselves up, whatever actions she was working towards were pointless. She just sat there with a stupid smile on her face trying to think of something to say, but all just could do is just look around the room trying not to meet his gaze.

Long story short, I am with you, as long as these idiots keep blowing themselves up, I could care less what these police officers do. Lord only knows the stress they live through.
44 posted on 11/28/2004 6:51:34 PM PST by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: skimbell
The people in that picture are animals just like those who strap a bomb to their bodies and step on a bus or those who put a man's head on a stick.
45 posted on 11/28/2004 6:53:17 PM PST by pete anderson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: pete anderson

I was referring to the violin incident.


46 posted on 11/28/2004 6:54:07 PM PST by KoRn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: mamelukesabre
Let me see, a soldier "forced" a man to play a violin? SO WHAT WHO CARES! Is this supposed to be a war crime?

I think it is. Ranks right up there with "forcing prisoner to wear panties on head."

47 posted on 11/28/2004 6:55:08 PM PST by lowbridge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker
I thought he looked familiar!


48 posted on 11/28/2004 6:55:20 PM PST by dagnabbit (Don't let Europe happen to America. Tell Bush & Congress to stop their massive Islamic immigration.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker
L8R



49 posted on 11/28/2004 6:55:57 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003
Where were all the crybabies when the pregnant Jewish woman and her daughters were slaughtered by palestinian scum?The double standard is disgusting.
50 posted on 11/28/2004 6:56:17 PM PST by rdcorso (Did I mention I was in Vietnam where I lost my backbone? Spineless John)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: skimbell

Never forget the photo in Post 37.


51 posted on 11/28/2004 6:56:19 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: KJC1
All media are slanted left or right and have an agenda and I understand that the Guardian is not going to show me pictures of Americans building a school in Iraq and the WSJ or FNC are not going to show me a picture of Israeli troops putting a man's head on a stick.

However, I do need both viewpoints and am concerned only that such actions taken bu US or Israeli troops incites Muslims and when Muslims are incited more or willing to strap a bomb to their body.

52 posted on 11/28/2004 6:58:37 PM PST by pete anderson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: SJackson; Alouette; Salem; yonif; Yehuda; dennisw
Such Abuse! Forced to play a violin! For Shame! Oh! The Humanity!
</sarcasm>
53 posted on 11/28/2004 7:00:17 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KoRn
It is not the incident itself it is the impact it has on the American troops. When incidents like this occur the Muslims use it as propaganda to incite the masses and when the masses are incited Americans and Israelis are killed.

I lived in the Middle East. I know how these people think.

54 posted on 11/28/2004 7:02:29 PM PST by pete anderson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: KoRn
"Actually I think it's kinda funny....but of course, I'm sick.

No, you're not sick. It is kinda funny.

Then again, I think that a prerequisite for the position of Prime Minister of Israel should be the willingness to eliminate a Billion Enemies.

How very silly of me.

55 posted on 11/28/2004 7:06:11 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: pete anderson
So therefore you condone the actions of the Israeli troops that put a man's head on a stick because they were in a barbaric situation? When Iraqi insurgents do the same types of things do Americans do you just brush it off as well this is how men act in barbaric situations?

Its not right but we put these men in a situation where they are trained and programmed to KILL for our defense.

As for Iraqi Terrorists they are our enemy and therefore there actions no matter what are unacceptable. Dont give us that liberal morality argument now that we will sink to their level.

56 posted on 11/28/2004 7:16:47 PM PST by M 91 u2 K
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: pete anderson
I lived in the Middle East. I know how these people think.

Well then you should know that Muslims are incited no matter what so Dont go and blame our actions for the behavior of Terrorists!

57 posted on 11/28/2004 7:19:33 PM PST by M 91 u2 K
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: FairOpinion

Good points, all.


58 posted on 11/28/2004 7:21:39 PM PST by notigar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: M 91 u2 K

Thank God they didn't put panties on his head and make him sing "I'm A Little Dreidel";


59 posted on 11/28/2004 7:24:33 PM PST by Porterville (It's time to get mine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

What's this I hear about violins in Palestine?
60 posted on 11/28/2004 7:25:38 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-154 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson