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Letter to Focus on the Family challenging their stand on No-Fault Divorce (good read)
Restore America - http://www.noDNC.com ^ | November 28, 2004

Posted on 11/28/2004 1:44:21 PM PST by woodb01

As posted half-way down the front page of www.NoDNC.com

To those who are concerned at
Focus On The Family and
Focus On The Family Action
 

Dear Concerned,
 
In spite of all the good that Focus On The Family has done in the area of family rescue, I believe you have missed seeing the major enemy: No-Fault Divorce.
 
It is true that divorce came as a result of feminism and hearts drawn away by self-centered, and selfish actions, but the major enemy, Easy Divorce, came as a result of uncontested changes in divorce laws in all 50 states.
 
All of us have done much to try to change the current anti-marriage, anti-family, anti-home, anti-male forces, but these efforts resemble someone trying to totally submerge an inflated inner tube.  It cannot be done.  It can never be done.  Get it "down" in one area and it pops up in another one.
 
Until we completely stop no-fault divorce laws we are fighting a losing battle, much like someone fighting the wind with a tennis racket...plenty of holes for escape or free passage.
 
I truly hope that Focus On The Family Action will make this the first area of concern with relentless efforts exerted until this No.1 enemy of the family is totally destroyed.
I have called upon many "rights" and "family" organizations for their involvment, but all have responded with a definite "NO".
 
This is not a divorce issue, but a legal issue, defending the rights of American citizens guaranteed by our Constitution.  These rights are: 1) due process - the right to hear the alleged claims of wrongdoing, with proof, defense, decision, and appeal; 2) equal protection under the law - the same legal "benefits" for both plaintiff and defendant, and 3) trial by jury of peers.
 
When divorce strikes, attorneys say there is nothing they can do to prevent it, but when you look at the constitutional rights, and the divorce procedures, there are endless actions that can be taken to prevent the illegal actions that go on in a civil divorce suit.  Judges and attorneys can be confronted with legal actions about conducting business outside of constitutional law.
 
There is something seriously flawed (illegal) when the plaintiff in a divorce suit is granted a divorce EVERY TIME.  Justice is NOT being served.  This is NOT "justice for ALL".
 
A follow-up to this FORCED divorce procedure is "deadbeat Dads" being imprisoned without Due Process, Equal Protection, and Trial by Jury of Peers, over a CIVIL matter.  That is illegality at its worst and MUST be ended.  It harks back to pauper's prison...pay or go to jail.

We can all speak that we want to defend marriages and families, but if this issue is not addressed also, we are just fooling ourselves into believing that we really care about the rights of American citizens, and in particular, the ungodly treatment of our spiritual brothers.  (75% of divorces are initiated by wives/Mothers)
 
All kinds of programs can be launched in support of marriages and families, but until we stop No-Fault Divorce our efforts to truly protect them are in vain.
 
I am reminded of a situation in the Bible where a giant named Goliath was doing his thing against the children of God without restraint, who were too afraid to be the eliminators.  Then along comes little David, who had kept a good track record of what God had done in his life, and was certain that this giant should and could be slain - that the enemy should be dead.
 
Somewhere there is a "David" who has not yet heard about the situation with this giant No-Fault Divorce, but who will be more than willing to "step up to the plate" in the name of Almighty God, and put an end to his godless actions.
 
Is David a member of your "family"?
 
Please let me know how you agree or disagree with issues addressed in this letter.
 
Most concerned...and relentlessly active,
 
Billy Miller - Louisiana 
brmiller (at) bellsouth (dot) net


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Any male who has been through a divorce knows just how ruthlessly sick the legal system has become.

Filled with feminist misandry (male hatred) the entire "divorce system" is like a cancer in the body politic and drastic surgery is needed.

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1 posted on 11/28/2004 1:44:22 PM PST by woodb01
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To: woodb01

FoTF is basically a Protestant operation...you won't get much in the way of anti-divorce positioning out of them.


2 posted on 11/28/2004 1:47:24 PM PST by Pio (There is no salvation outisde the Roman Catholic Church)
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To: woodb01
marriage is the only contract that you can default on with no reprecussion. I did a term paper on no fault divorce. I hate the whole concept. It is basically designed to free up court time. It is harmful to families.
3 posted on 11/28/2004 1:52:24 PM PST by BruceysMom
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To: Pio
FoTF is basically a Protestant operation...you won't get much in the way of anti-divorce positioning out of them.
That is an unusual position to take considering that the covenant marriage movement is based in states in which Protestants outnumber Catholics: Arkansas, Louisana and Arizona.
4 posted on 11/28/2004 2:06:34 PM PST by Jibaholic
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To: Pio
FoTF is basically a Protestant operation...you won't get much in the way of anti-divorce positioning out of them.

I beg to differ. Evangelical (ie, Bible-believing) Protestantism is just as hostile to divorce as Catholics are.

Unfortunately, legions of self-proclaimed "Catholics" and "Evangelicals" alike, ignore the prohibition and divorce and remarry as they will.

5 posted on 11/28/2004 2:07:43 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Pio
FoTF is basically a Protestant operation...you won't get much in the way of anti-divorce positioning out of them.

I beg to differ. Evangelical (ie, Bible-believing) Protestantism is just as hostile to divorce as Catholics are.

Unfortunately, legions of self-proclaimed "Catholics" and "Evangelicals" alike, ignore the prohibition and divorce and remarry as they will.

6 posted on 11/28/2004 2:08:07 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: woodb01

The explosion of divorce was NOT caused by feminism.

The household labor saving appliances of the 50's meant that now men could have clean clothes and hot meals without a wife. The popular culture of the time often depicted wives as fur-coat obsessed, shopaholic parasites who drained the virility from their husbands and reduced them to "yes, dear" servility. Men responded by deferring marriage, spending their new disposable income on the swinging single hep cat bachelor pad, on Playboy and Thunderbirds and martinis and Dave Brubeck albums on their new hi-fi stereos.

When the sexual revolution hit, no fault divorce meant that professional and upper class men were free to ditch their redundant wives and enjoy the new freedoms. It was this that triggered feminism because the popular culture of the early 70s was full of horror stories about suddenly destitute middle aged women without marketable job skills being dumped by divorce onto the job market. Younger women saw that marriage was no guarantee of lifetime socioeconomic security. The only guarantee that you would always be able to support yourself was to never stop working and thereby always have marketable job skills.


7 posted on 11/28/2004 2:11:25 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Rytwyng

We have a long way to go to educate people on how bad no-fault divorce is. So try to stay focused, don't blame "protestants" or "catholics", but just explain to a lot of ignorant and uncaring persons about how bad it is. I repeat: we have a long way to go. Don't get sidetracked or out-of-control-angry. Got it??


8 posted on 11/28/2004 2:11:38 PM PST by guitarist (commonsense)
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To: guitarist

I mean this to everyone, not specifically to you to whom I am replying.


9 posted on 11/28/2004 2:12:33 PM PST by guitarist (commonsense)
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To: Jibaholic

"...Louisana..."

Louisiana may have more Protestants than Catholics living there, but culturally it Roman Catholic. Amazingly so, as I, a Roman Catholic realized when I visited there. It made me realize how totally Protestant the rest of the USA is, even NYC where I grew up. Hudson County, NJ, where I live now, is pretty RC, that I will say.


10 posted on 11/28/2004 2:22:12 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: woodb01

I say we go back to the days when women were just property! Yeah! That'll teach 'em! Upity women! They're lucky we don't just hang 'em like horse thieves!

Ok. Now that THAT'S out of my system. *Deep Breath*

I agree that no-fault is a problem when it comes to families with children, but I think it should still be OK when no children are involved, just the adults. Or those children pretending to be adults, LOL!

I've been through two divorces. The first; I left because my Ex refused to grow up, get a job, and I was tired of being his Mother! Grrrr! I left him with a home, a truck and some cash in the bank.

Second divorce was a total emotional disaster; the standard "Other woman, currently with child" kind of disaster. I was totally thrown away like a used tissue, BUT I had a good lawyer and he left with little more than he came with into the marriage. I think that was fair, considering the circumstances of his adultery and thus and such.

So, if it's just grown ups divorcing each other, fine. If kids are involved, then yes, it should be contested and it should be duked out in court, all the way, the full meal deal. Maybe then people would THINK before they acted? Oh, who am I kidding? Most cases usually hinge on who has more money and can afford the lawyer with the better wardrobe. Double-Grrrr!


11 posted on 11/28/2004 2:24:21 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Sam the Sham

"The explosion of divorce was NOT caused by feminism."

Thanks for sticking up for us females on this thread. It never fails to amaze me how these anti-divorce threads become bash-a-thons against women.

I venture that the stat showing 75% of divorce actions being initiated by women do not at all indicate which party desires the divorce. It is still considered extremely "bad form" for a man to divorce his wife, so even if he is the one who has abandoned the marriage she will still likely be the complainant of record.

I know there are a lot of lousy dames in the world, but I think statistics clearly show there are more bad men than women. I readily concede the courts are prejudiced against men in divorce proceedings and I strongly agree that throwing people in prison for failure to pay child support is probably unconstitutional.


12 posted on 11/28/2004 2:27:15 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: woodb01

It's amazing. Even very strict Bible-based churches seem to ignore what God says about this subject, even though we know God hates divorce and remarriage:

Malachi 2:16 For I hate divorce," says the LORD

1 Cor 7: 9 But to the married I give instructions, 10 not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband
11 (but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife.

Matt 5:32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


13 posted on 11/28/2004 2:28:59 PM PST by Joann37
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To: Sam the Sham
When the sexual revolution hit, no fault divorce meant that professional and upper class men were free to ditch their redundant wives and enjoy the new freedoms. It was this that triggered feminism because the popular culture of the early 70s was full of horror stories about suddenly destitute middle aged women without marketable job skills being dumped by divorce onto the job market. Younger women saw that marriage was no guarantee of lifetime socioeconomic security. The only guarantee that you would always be able to support yourself was to never stop working and thereby always have marketable job skills. THANK YOU, YOU EXPLAINED IT SO WELL!
14 posted on 11/28/2004 2:33:58 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Give thanks to the GOD of heaven, for His mercy and loving kindness are forever!!)
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To: Sam the Sham

Sam,
You need to do some reading on the intended goals of the Feminist movement, and more importantly Antonio Gramsci's "Planned Destruction of the Family Unit".

III.Antonio Gramschi, 1891-1937
A.The New Order (L'Ordine Nuovo)
1.Italian Communist newspaper, founded 1919
2.Co-founder of Italian Communist Party, 1921
3.Pre-Prison Writings, ed. Richard Bellamy (Cambridge, 1994)
4.Selections from the Prison Notebooks (Intl. Publishers, 1971)
B.Lenin was wrong, and the Leninist revolution will fail
1.The workers will see the revolutionary government as a new boss
2.When the revolution fails, the west will re-import Capitalism
C.Gradual revolution: infiltrate, Co-opt, Subvert
1.Infiltrate the State: elective & appointed office; judgeships
2.Infiltrate the military: enlist & subvert from within
3.Infiltrate justice: undermine and discredit state constitutions
4.Infiltrate education: professors & administrators
5.Infiltrate & discredit religion: scoundrels as clergymen
6.Register, then license, then confiscate all privately held weapons
D.Form or infiltrate international organizations to promote goals such as
"global understanding," "economic development," "transfer of resources"
E.Both Capitalism and Judaeo-Christian culture must be destroyed before a
Communist revolution can succeed
1.Religious sentiment cannot be destroyed through legislation, as
Lenin believed, but must be redirected from the divine to the state
a.Terror will only drive Religion underground
b.Religion will then reemerge when Leninism fails
c.So Religion must be destroyed in the minds of men
2.Infiltrate religious academies and become priests and clergymen
a.Subtly promote heresy within religious organizations
b.Infiltrators must act so as to discredit the church
(1)Cause financial and sexual scandals
(2)See that this is given a high profile in the news
(3)Like-minded infiltrators in the media will cooperate
3.Once religion is discredited from within, continuously promote the
idea that only the state can solve the problems that have been
traditionally brought before the church
F.When propagating revolutionary ideas, cloak them in polite terms
1.National Consensus
2.Popular Mandate
3.National Pacification
4.Pluralism
5.Global Community
6.Economic Justice
7.Economic Democracy
8.Liberation Theology
9.Direct Action
G.Marxists "must enter into every civil, cultural, and political activity
in every nation, leavening them as yeast leavens bread."
H. Subvert the existing hegemonic culture and replace it with
a "counter-hegemony" that is based on the revolutionary
culture of the oppressed masses




The "Sexual Revolution", which was nothing more than a product of cultural marxism, of which the seeds were first planted by the Frankfurt School.



IV. Herbert Marcuse, 1898-1979
A. Bourgeois Capitalist civilization must be overthrown by
discrediting existing beliefs and replacing them with
revolutionary or proto-revolutionary beliefs.
B. Founding Father of Political Correctness
1. "Free Expression" is actually repressive, because it permits
the bourgeois capitalists and other counter-revolutionary
or anti-revolutionary individuals and groups to express their
beliefs and values - values that must be overthrown.
2. Advocates "the withdrawal of toleration of speech and assembly"
for conservative or Christian individuals and groups
a. Denounce them as hate groups, atavistic, fascist,
or intolerant.
b. Denounce conservative or Christian speech as hate speech
d. Do not allow colleges or universities to become "forums"
for politically incorrect speech
3. Advocates "Liberating Tolerance"
a. "intolerance against movements from the Right,
and toleration of movements from the Left."
b. "new and rigid restrictions on teaching and practices in
the educational institution" to indoctrinate students in
"progressive" values
c. Speech Codes on campuses
d. Reject the values of Western Civilization as "regressive"
e. Reject the "Western Canon" of literature as "regressive"
f. Promote Marxism as "progressive"
g. Denounce and discredit those who resist this "progressive"
agenda as "reactionary" or "fascist" or "racist" or
"the extreme right" etc.
-------

The media and educationaly institutions are used to promote and indoctrinate individuals with these perverse principles.

Finally, according to the 1963 congressional record, here are a few of the communist goals which pertain to the subject matter we are discussing here.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.


15 posted on 11/28/2004 3:02:45 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Halliburton razed the rainforests in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan -John Kerry '04 /Sarcasm)
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To: Sam the Sham

Dear Sam,

You have an interesting proposition, yet it is wholly unsupported by the facts. It is more of the same propaganda pushed by the left. My friend Judy Parejko (who wrote the book "Stolen Vows"), and I have thoroughly researched this issue and it shows that the rise of divorce was DIRECTLY correllated with the rise of feminism and the no-fault laws.

Unfortunately for those who would like to believe differently, or simply want to endorse a position not supported by the facts, this IS well documented.

And before you start firing at the hip on this issue, please be aware that I can point you to US House Congressional testimony, legal briefs, and several years worth of research that I PERSONALLY have done.

Feminism pushed the issue, and most would be surprised that it has come STRAIGHT from communist Russia, to the Women's Lawyer's Association in the 40's, who pressed until the 60's to find an opening, and the rest is well known.

It also has its roots in the "free love" movement of the late 1800's, by a couple of avowed communist feminist sisters who wanted marriage done away with. Harper's weekly ran several GREAT illustrations about the family butcher that Communism was at that time...

Learn the TRUTH, and it is the TRUTH that shall set you free. NOT the propaganda and prevailing "wisdom" of the day...

See the ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com


16 posted on 11/28/2004 3:13:41 PM PST by woodb01 (See the ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Diana,

You're obviously a radfem... I feel sorry for you and pity you... Poor girl...

Up in the socialist state of Wisconsin too...


17 posted on 11/28/2004 3:15:23 PM PST by woodb01 (See the ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: jocon307
"Thanks for sticking up for us females on this thread."

He stated that the "explosion of divorce was NOT caused by feminism" (which is not entirely true, see my post #15-- feminism is part of Gramsci's "planned destruction of the family unit" ). Not all females are "feminists" (thank god).

"It never fails to amaze me how these anti-divorce threads become bash-a-thons against women."

I find it hilarious that you say this at the beginning, because you go on to bash men:

"I know there are a lot of lousy dames in the world, but I think statistics clearly show there are more bad men than women."


LOL!!!!!
18 posted on 11/28/2004 3:18:12 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Halliburton razed the rainforests in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan -John Kerry '04 /Sarcasm)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Great that you had a good lawyer, but here in Oregon you can't even mention adultery in court,and that is one of the big problems with no fault, the innocent party has no recourse. Not only did my ex commit adultery but he took everything even my Glock and the court didn't care. i wasn't even allowed to testify about his treatment of me.
19 posted on 11/28/2004 3:19:57 PM PST by BruceysMom
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To: woodb01

WoodB,
Please see my post #15.
I'm sure you're well aware of all of these things already, but just making certain.


20 posted on 11/28/2004 3:22:06 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Halliburton razed the rainforests in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan -John Kerry '04 /Sarcasm)
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