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Border security Bushwacked again
NJ.com ^ | 11/28/2004 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 11/28/2004 9:41:36 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Finally there's a political figure on the national scene who's making sense on the key issues of illegal immigration and border security.

Unfortunately, it's Hillary Clinton.

At the recent opening of the Clinton Library in Arkansas, Hillary told a TV interviewer that the U.S. needs to toughen up its border security.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; guestworker; hillary; hillaryclinton; immigrantlist; paulmulshine; petergadiel
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1 posted on 11/28/2004 9:41:36 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Rich's Undeniable Truth of Life #1: Hillary Rodham Clinton is a lying slag.
Rich's Undeniable Truth of Life #2: If Hillary says something you like, see #1.


2 posted on 11/28/2004 9:43:28 AM PST by RichInOC (Hillary police the borders? Come on now. She couldn't even keep women away from Bill.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Oh she's just making her play for the Dem nomination in 2008. Clinton had told Kerry to move more towards the middle but he didn't listen so now he's giving Hillary advice. She's been sitting back and watching the Repubs and seeing what their big issues are and she is trying to play to us.


3 posted on 11/28/2004 9:44:18 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; Admin Moderator; All

CORRECT LINK:http://www.nj.com/printer/printer.ssf?base/columns-0/1101621130275790.xml


4 posted on 11/28/2004 9:44:24 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

This would be great huh? That is if you could believe a single word that came out of her mouth. Which you can't.


5 posted on 11/28/2004 9:46:01 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Hillary is just brown-nosing for votes.


6 posted on 11/28/2004 9:47:29 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: areafiftyone

so she's making a play by introducing LOGICAL and SAME legislation for a change....

Let's take advantage of her "change of heart". If the so-called "republicans" refuse to introduce legislation that will protect us, lower taxes, dismantle the NEA and ither totally useless organizations, I will gladly support THOSE WHO DO!


7 posted on 11/28/2004 9:48:29 AM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: RichInOC
Hag Hillary is playing politics as usual. BUT - and don't forget this a few years from now - if there is a major incident traced to lax border security, and if the timing is right, it can propel her to the Presidency. Warning to Republicans - you had better get on this issue, get on it NOW, and be ruthless about it!
8 posted on 11/28/2004 9:50:07 AM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Who would believe ANYTHING that mean and nasty, vicious, lying, control-freak bitch has to say?


9 posted on 11/28/2004 9:50:15 AM PST by FreeKeys ("There is always an easy solution to every human problem: neat, plausible and wrong."- H. L. Mencken)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Hillary should not be given the opputunity to make this an issue.

The President is on the wrong side in regard to guest workers.

10 posted on 11/28/2004 9:50:31 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Clara Lou
Hillary is just brown-nosing for votes.

Exactly. She's trying to pull the wool over the eyes and ears of the Red states/ Flyover country.

hehehe....sorry, hill, it won't work!

11 posted on 11/28/2004 9:50:35 AM PST by the Deejay
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To: steplock

ps ... I did NOT read the article yet - the comments are written to the KNEE-JERK negative reactions

I may end up agreeing with the above posters, but WHERE are the so-called "republicans" who are supposed to be upholding the core values of America?

Counting their cash alongside the democrats?


12 posted on 11/28/2004 9:51:12 AM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: steplock

It is a typical rough Mulshine column. I agree with him.


13 posted on 11/28/2004 9:52:43 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Clara Lou

GWB's "hispandering" (brown nosing) worked for him.....maybe she's taking a lesson from the best.


14 posted on 11/28/2004 10:00:42 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"Ultimately all these big Texas fat cats and Bush supporters need Chinese-style labor," said Baer. "What difference does it make if 3,000 people are killed in the World Trade Center when you consider the fortunes of people who live off illegal immigrants?" -- Strawman, red herring, undistributed middle, etc., etc.

Whether it's only a stop-gap OR part of a longer-term solution,  IDENTIFYING illegals and keeping them from voting is the first huge challenge -- and a MUST; even after the welfare-state (which attracts the moocher-types) is disassembled.

I'm TOTALLY AGAINST guest worker drivers' licenses or I.D. cards UNLESS they LOOK TOTALLY DIFFERENT from real citizens' licenses  and THEY MUST SAY IN BIG BOLD LETTERS:
 

TEMPORARY PERMIT: NON-CITIZEN  GUEST WORKER
Search THOROUGHLY at ALL border 
and transportation checkpoints.
>  MAY NOT VOTE.  <
MAY NOT RECEIVE FOOD STAMPS OR OTHER WELFARE.
MAY NOT RECEIVE FREE NON-EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE.
NOTIFY THE INS IF THE SPONSORING EMPLOYER OR 
ADDRESS IS WRONG OR IF CONVICTED OF A FELONY.

( PLEASE consider  PRINTING THIS OUT AND SNAIL-MAILING IT TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS.  THANK YOU. )

15 posted on 11/28/2004 10:03:51 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Incentives matter." -- Steven E. Landsburg at http://freedomkeys.com/pricecontrols2.htm)
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To: areafiftyone

Reviewing the actual quote from Hitlery, she was using the infamous Clintoon "triangulation" strategy. Which means basically to take an existing Republican stance and adopt it as your own.

In Hitlery's statement, her 4 or 5 actual policy prescriptions were (a) already being addressed by the White House or (b) so vague as to be useless.


16 posted on 11/28/2004 10:04:48 AM PST by angkor
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To: steplock

Hillary will win in the NY State Senate race without my help and I refuse to support her for president even if she ordered our troops to go on the borders to protect us. I will not have that witch in power.


17 posted on 11/28/2004 10:06:57 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: angkor
She was using the infamous Clintoon "triangulation" strategy. Which means basically to take an existing Republican stance and adopt it as your own.

That is EXACTLY what she is doing. We've seen the Clintons and how they work before.

18 posted on 11/28/2004 10:08:30 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: FreeKeys
"Who would believe ..."

Right before the election I talked to my boss, an inteligent and well informed person, about who he was going to vote for. He said Bush, then he went on to say that he made up his mind during the VP debates when Edwards claim that Steve Reeves would get up and walk if Kerry were elected.

My point being that in 2008 Hillary will have has 3 years to reinvent herself. And she is taking advantage of that fact by moving right fast. The GOP on the other hand is moving left fast. On issue after issue Hillary and the democrats will be to the right of the GOP!!!! It is mind boggling to watch the GOP throw conservative issues into the eager hands of the democrats but they are doing it.
Federal spending
Open borders
Insane trade policy
Out sourcing

The GOP looks more like the democrats everyday and the smart democrats are looking more and more conservative every day. If this keeps up the GOP can kiss conservative voters good-bye.

19 posted on 11/28/2004 10:22:00 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Enterprise
Warning to Republicans - you had better get on this issue, get on it NOW, and be ruthless about it!".

Absolutely! Bush had better not underestimate how important this issue is to all Americans and not just to Latinos or to border state Americans.

If it is perceived that Bush is allowing lax border security as a way to appease the Latino vote or for any other reason, then the Republicans just handed Hitlery an issue she can run with. National security starts with the border.

20 posted on 11/28/2004 10:22:21 AM PST by GBA
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