Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A question to the "Ukrainians"

Posted on 11/25/2004 11:35:44 AM PST by A. Pole

I have the following question:

I see that many Ukrainians claim that Russia is not the legitimate inheritor of Kievan Rus, that the present Ukraine is.

Do you want to change the name of Ukraine into "Rus"? If not, why?


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: eu; russia; ukraine
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

1 posted on 11/25/2004 11:35:44 AM PST by A. Pole
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kozak; KOZ.; Leo Carpathian; OXENinFLA; Solon; jb6; eluminate; Truth666; Lukasz; AdmSmith; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/25/2004 11:36:04 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

Interesting question


3 posted on 11/25/2004 11:39:35 AM PST by cake_crumb (The IQ of the average Democrat voter is slightly less than body temperature)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

because its been ukraine for awhile. no need to change it.


4 posted on 11/25/2004 11:40:43 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole
Why not into "Varyagshchina" (or "Varangiya") then? It would completely avoid even phonetic similarity with 'Rus' and a lot of associated unpleasant memories.
5 posted on 11/25/2004 11:42:47 AM PST by GSlob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

Because the Russians (Stalin) committed genocide on the Ukranian people in the 1920s and 30s, decimating the population. After cleansing the region, ethnic Russians moved in to occupy, overwhelming the few Ukranians left...


6 posted on 11/25/2004 11:45:47 AM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Canuck
Because the Russians (Stalin) committed genocide on the Ukranian people in the 1920s and 30s, decimating the population. After cleansing the region, ethnic Russians moved in to occupy, overwhelming the few Ukranians left...

I have been thinking that Stalin was Georgian. Anyway, I find your answer a little unusual.

7 posted on 11/25/2004 11:53:24 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

Just don't change it to Maecedonia.


8 posted on 11/25/2004 11:54:51 AM PST by microgood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: microgood

How 'bout they just call the whole country Chornobyl? Could really boost tourism, eh?


9 posted on 11/25/2004 12:10:37 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

True enough, Stalin was born in Georgia, but he was an ethnic Russian.

Check this out: http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_ukraine.html


10 posted on 11/25/2004 12:21:22 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Canuck
True enough, Stalin was born in Georgia, but he was an ethnic Russian.

Then the Ukrainians must be ethnic Italians.

11 posted on 11/25/2004 12:31:11 PM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: GSlob
Why Varangya? Has it got anything to do with Rurik dynasty? Then, perhaps, Varyaghia? But Rurik was summoned to Novgorod, not Kiev. In a way, you could say, Rus' started off in Novgorod, rather then Kiev...

As to the question of Rus', however, I'd say, there are too many residual negative emotions associated with the word Russia - Rus' - in the western half of Ukraine. The whole thing looks more like a typical geopolitical spat over the influence over Central Europe then a genuine concern of promoting democracy in Ukraine. It's a very delicate situation.
12 posted on 11/25/2004 12:34:08 PM PST by aliquis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

No, he was an ethnic Georgian, Iosif Djugashvili.


13 posted on 11/25/2004 12:35:49 PM PST by aliquis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Conservative Canuck
True enough, Stalin was born in Georgia, but he was an ethnic Russian.

Wrong. Stalin was an ethnic Georgian. No Russian name ever ended in "shvili".

14 posted on 11/25/2004 12:36:56 PM PST by tarator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

Nice keyword someone added to your thread.


15 posted on 11/25/2004 12:37:07 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grzegorz 246
Nice keyword someone added to your thread.

It was his name.

16 posted on 11/25/2004 12:44:00 PM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Comment #17 Removed by Moderator

To: ChicagoMike

He is Georgian for sure.


18 posted on 11/25/2004 12:49:48 PM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: A. Pole

Then the Ukrainians must be ethnic Italians

you must be an ethnic ass.
creating a thread to bash ukes? trying to spread soviet propoganda a like budding little dictatator. father lenin would be proud of you.


19 posted on 11/25/2004 12:56:18 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ChicagoMike

I dunno about the Iraq connection, but I stand corrected. He was Georgian, but learned only Russian in school. Leftist that link may be, but it is factual. Here's another link: http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine. Same info.


20 posted on 11/25/2004 12:57:38 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson