Many Freepers will be connecting with friends and relatives on the other side of the fence during the holidays.
Any stories?
I will be spending the day with libs,some even ultra libs.
We have done this for years and we all get along well and respect eachother.
I refuse to argue about anything,especially politics or religion,over the dinner table and everyone else seems to feel the same way.
Sorry about you and your friend.
She died just as Anakin Skywalker died when he became Darth Vader.
Except Liberals don't have that kind of power.
I have a few Liberal family members -- I gave up on them. I actually had one quote the Calley trial to "prove" Heinz-Kerry was telling the truth when he testified before congress. What can you do with that kind of mentality?
We "lost" my in-laws (in their 80s) to Kerry this year. It'll be a grim Thanksgiving...
She makes John Kerry look like Herbert Hoover.
Same thing just happened to me, a real old pal. He called my views "obnoxious and offensive" and invited me to substitute the words "kike" or "bastard" in a column I wrote -- quite a moderate column -- just to see how it felt. I told him he was out of his cotton pickin mind. Haven't heard from him. This is the second time he's anathematized me -- note that it's always the liberals who do the anathematizing, not the other way around. The first time, he had sent me a joke about Elian Gonzalez. I replied that I didn't find much of anything funny about Elian Gonzalez. And that cheesed it. He just blew up.
My radical, militant, commie-atheist mother-in-law is coming for Thanksgiving dinner.
She will refrain from mentioning politics, religion, etc. or she will go home with the turkey on her head like a helmet.
We'll send out for pizza, and eat stuffing and veggies.
(I hoped she would be boycotting Thanksgiving because of the election reslults, but she can sniff a free meal from 40 miles. Typical liberal.)
DOE
Off to their place tomorrow! :-)
My high school has a web site in which the "host" is a
big fat Micheal Moore fan/Bush hater and will only
accept posts that are liberal and Kerry loving...I
already got thrown off of it twice...but I enjoyed
every minute of it....He couldn't debate and accept
the fact that he was another soreloser...alot of
information I got from Free Republic and it killed
him....life goes on!!!
We had a couple that supported Kerry and their daughter took riding lessons from my wife and they kept her pony here. A week after the election they advised us that they were moving the pony and their daughter would not be taking lessons with my wife any longer, after over 3 years of 2-3 times a week. Her dad used to email mail once a week, haven't heard from him since.
Im waiting for the liberal to arrive
My advice: be the one holding the carving knife.
The left is wounded and, like any self-respecting game animal, dangerous. Delve into politics at your own risk. Better to talk about football or high gas prices.
At some point you might try to insert the fact that once Iraq is liberated, free non-camelhumpingtheocrats will be in control of the world's 4th largest oil reserve.
"Gentlemen, start your engines." Then, take them outside to view your new 3/4 ton diesel crewcab. Heck, take them for a ride.
This year he even got into the retarded evil genius and/or vrwc stuff.
Let me apologize in advance for this long response, but your post struck a chord in me, and I just wanted you to know you're not alone.
I too have lost a dear friend, someone I've been writing to for around 25 years. He lives in the Seattle area now. Before the election, he sent me a couple of terribly tasteless political jokes (Bush-is-dumb-but-Republicans-are-dumber-and-meaner type things). At first, I shrugged it off, ignoring it, not wanting to jeopardize such a long friendship. Then he sent me the one about things you have to believe to vote Republican. Still trying to keep it lighthearted, I sent him the parallel one about the things you have to believe to vote Democrat. The response I got was stunning: angry, despairing, and wholly without the humor I'd come to expect from my friend.
I was uneasy, but let it pass. After all, this would go away once the election was over, right? We could each gloss over the other's choices and resume our "talks", right? Wrong. After the election he sent me that skanky map Carol Simpson was holding up on TV and saying that the red states that voted for President Bush were the same ones that condoned slavery, and the clear implication was that ignorant and racist Bush voters were dragging us back to a horrible time in our history. I was stunned. This is a man who's known me most of my life, knows my accomplishments, knows my degrees and graduate degree, knows MY HEART, and he's calling me a *#^&! bigoted racist? I was quite simply devastated. Then I got angry.
My husband had surgery a few days later, and while we were waiting for him to be prepped for the procedure, and after he'd been administered the drug to make him drowsy, I sat with a legal pad and wrote pages and pages in response, in longhand, like my friend and I used to do when we first wrote each other. I didn't edit my thoughts, my sarcasm, or my anger, but just let it drain out of me onto the pages. I set the letter (aka diatribe) aside, intending to edit it and make it sort of a farewell opus to a long, but apparently unilateral friendship. It sits still at the left corner of my desk, the pages almost crackling with pain and anger. I can't give a cogent answer for why I haven't sent it, or what I'm waiting for before I do. As it is, I simmer in silence.
My "friend" who is no longer my friend sent me a few "neutral", non-political jokes since, maybe testing the water, because it is unusual for him to not have heard from me in so long. I don't respond; I can't. The hurt right now is too deep for me to be able to communicate with him in a non-poisonous way. I am digging deep to try to find forgiveness for someone who is so lost that he doesn't care who he hurts with his casual name-calling, his smug assertion that people like me who voted for President Bush are stupid, bigoted, and racist.
After I calmed down, I realized that I was the one who changed, who grew, learned, cared enough about the nation to inform myself about the issues and the candidates. He is the one stuck in a reactionary mode, confident in his own little echo chamber that he holds the patent on knowledge and understanding. I used to respect him; I no longer do.
Thanks for letting me have my say.
It's sad but sometimes we outgrow our friends. It sounds like you did. It's quality, not quantity that is important. That, and faith in the dear Lord.
I will be thinking of you this weekend, and hope you are well.
Well, noticed this year my landlord put out a sign for Sen Chuck Grassley (widely supported by farmers here). I recall wondering which side of the fence he was on. Last night, he invited me to attend Thanksgiving services at the local Lutheran church. Met his son, who's in the USAF. So, perhaps the effect can be positive, also?
They don't understand, but I believe these are the misguided variety, not the evil-incarnate kind. They'll come around. I'll keep working, they will be assimilated, resistance is futile...
Bump
I've lived it all my life. My parents were much more liberal than I am, and so is my wife. In the end, it's not so bad. Politics don't make the person.