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Intellectuals Who Doubt Darwin
The American Prowler ^ | 11/24/2004 | Hunter Baker

Posted on 11/23/2004 9:53:55 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: PatrickHenry

Don't flatter yourself, my confidence is NOT shaken.
Changing teeth are not representative of species in mid-transition.
Depending on which direction you believe whales evolved, (land to sea or vice versa), why aren't there examples of more than a vestige of legs?
Did the species transition in a single generation? Across the globe?


181 posted on 11/28/2004 4:41:31 PM PST by G Larry (Time to update my "Support John Thune!" tagline. Thanks to all who did!)
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To: Dimensio

Take over here, wouldja? I'm too grumpy for this right now. It was your dialogue, and I never should have jumped in.


182 posted on 11/28/2004 4:48:55 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: G Larry
Don't flatter yourself, my confidence is NOT shaken.

Of course it isn't. You've already decided on what the truth is, thus any "facts" that get in your way are irrelevant. Reality be damned, you know how things are!

Changing teeth are not representative of species in mid-transition.

Why not?

Depending on which direction you believe whales evolved, (land to sea or vice versa), why aren't there examples of more than a vestige of legs?

What, specifically, would you want to see?

Did the species transition in a single generation?

No, of course not.

Across the globe?

No, of course not. Why would you expect such a thing unless you are fundamentally ignorant regarding the way that evolution works?
183 posted on 11/28/2004 4:52:10 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: Dimensio

>Why would you expect such a thing unless you are fundamentally ignorant regarding the way that evolution works?<

It doesn't, so I am.

Did the "land whale" 'With legs' give birth to a sea whale without legs? If there were generations where the legs atrophyed or became fins, where are the fossils, illustrating that transition?


184 posted on 11/28/2004 5:05:08 PM PST by G Larry (Time to update my "Support John Thune!" tagline. Thanks to all who did!)
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To: G Larry
Depending on which direction you believe whales evolved, (land to sea or vice versa), why aren't there examples of more than a vestige of legs?

You were shown an example that, although basically a marine animal, could walk out of water on its legs. Do alligators have "vestigial" legs? There is a slightly later cetacean which is about as marine-adapted as a modern sea lion. THEN we get to whales with (increasingly) vestigial legs.

Why are none of these things transitionals? Is it because they are not obviously maladapted monsters?

What does it mean to offer as evidence against evolution the lack of something you call a "transitional" if, to make the statement true, you have to define the word as something evolution does not predict and which no scientist expects to find?

185 posted on 11/28/2004 5:32:41 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: G Larry
Did the "land whale" 'With legs' give birth to a sea whale without legs?

If you don't have a clue what evolution has to say about how species arise, how do you know it's false?

186 posted on 11/28/2004 5:36:07 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm too grumpy for this right now.

I'm too busy with my sellout book, "How I Covered Up the Truth of Creation as Part of the Vast Darwinist Conspiracy."

187 posted on 11/28/2004 5:42:11 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: nickcarraway

"Intellectuals who doubt Darwin." That's right up there with Horses Who Talk, Pigs Who Fly, and Greek Orthodox Anchors Who Work for CBS News. Indeed, another oxymoron was born with your threadline, as it is virtually impossible for one to be an intellectual and at the same time have doubts about the fact of evolution. The intellectuals around here will see to that if they haven't already.


188 posted on 11/28/2004 5:42:32 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: VadeRetro
I'm too busy with my sellout book, "How I Covered Up the Truth of Creation as Part of the Vast Darwinist Conspiracy."

Sounds like a sequal to your runaway best seller: "How I Roamed the World, Concealing the Evidence of Noah's Flood."

189 posted on 11/28/2004 5:51:45 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: VadeRetro
... how do you know it's false?

What are you, a dummy? A fossil whale with legs is a "lame" transitional. He wants a "true" transitional.

190 posted on 11/28/2004 5:57:01 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
The biggest blockbuster will be the final volume in which I describe how Satan transported Karl Marx in a UFO to the Galapagos Islands for a conspiratorial meeting with young Darwin.
191 posted on 11/28/2004 5:58:29 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: PatrickHenry
No one's going to ask, so I might as well name the whale ancestor with sea-lion levels of land capability. Rhodocetus.
192 posted on 11/28/2004 6:04:21 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro

Hey Vade, what was the whale ancestor with sea-l...oh, crap.


193 posted on 11/28/2004 6:08:39 PM PST by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: VadeRetro
... conspiratorial meeting with young Darwin.

Don't overlook the crucial point that Origin of Species was published in 1859, just in time to spark the American Civil War [so called], and all that evidence (kept secret by the Freemasons) that Darwin had a gay relationship with John Wilkes Booth.

194 posted on 11/28/2004 6:10:42 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: VadeRetro
... the whale ancestor with sea-lion levels of land capability ...

Stop sliming around with "lame" transitionals. That creationoid is no fool. He wants to see "true" transitionals.

195 posted on 11/28/2004 6:14:46 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: general_re
Didn't you do any plays in High School? Once you miss your cue by so much that the other cast members go on without you ... just LET THEM GO!
196 posted on 11/28/2004 6:15:40 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Darwin had a gay relationship with John Wilkes Booth.

I heard it was pretty gloomy after Gettysburg and Vicksburg.

197 posted on 11/28/2004 6:19:33 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: PatrickHenry
....now you want a "true" transitional. Not a "lame" transitional ... a "true" transitional. Ah, yes. The game's afoot!

Que the bagpipers....

198 posted on 11/28/2004 6:20:54 PM PST by longshadow
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To: longshadow

Make that "Cue"


199 posted on 11/28/2004 6:21:31 PM PST by longshadow
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To: VadeRetro

But it's my only line!


200 posted on 11/28/2004 6:21:45 PM PST by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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