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Mexico, U.S. reach accord on migrants' Social Security
El Universal Online ^ | November 23, 2004 | Wire services

Posted on 11/23/2004 11:03:48 AM PST by Regulator

QUITO, Ecuador Mexico and Washington agreed to introduce similar legislative initiatives whereby Mexican workers who paid into Social Security in the United States will be refunded their contributions when they return to their homeland, President Vicente Fox said here Monday.

"The initiatives entail the recognition of all those (Mexicans) who have worked in the United States legally or otherwise, so they will have the right to the savings they accumulated while working in the neighboring country," said Fox, who is visiting Ecuador.

During a news conference with Mexican journalists accompanying him on his travels, Fox announced that he and U.S. President George W. Bush agreed to simultaneously introduce in their respective Congresses what he dubbed the "Pay in Full" program initiatives.

Fox and Bush met in Santiago during the weekend summit of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.

During their meeting, Fox said, the two leaders made "very valuable" advances in talks on a guest worker program for Mexicans in the United States.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: abjectripoff; aliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; mexico; socialsecurity; ss; totalization
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Hey, "conservatives", here's the latest plan from our newly re-elected "conservative". His buddy Sr. Fox put it this way:

"The initiatives entail the recognition of all those (Mexicans) who have worked in the United States legally or otherwise, so they will have the right to the savings they accumulated while working in the neighboring country,"

Yessirree, this sounds like a real "conservative" initiative: social welfare money for foreign criminals. If it passes, the stampede can only accelerate. And the bankrupt Social Security IOU pile will get worse.

1 posted on 11/23/2004 11:03:49 AM PST by Regulator
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To: gubamyster; NewRomeTacitus; brianl703; JesseHousman

Neverending madness ping.


2 posted on 11/23/2004 11:05:16 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Now that President Bush has been re-elected, we should be safe in assuming that every recommendation he makes from now on is what he really believes in.


3 posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:23 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: Regulator
"Mexican workers who paid into Social Security in the United States will be refunded their contributions when they return to their homeland"

Works for me.

4 posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:24 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Regulator

Wish I could get this deal!! where do I sign up to be an illegal alien?


5 posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:28 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: Regulator

I guess they'll have to raise the retirement age to 80 for the rest of us.


6 posted on 11/23/2004 11:06:48 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: Southack
when they return to their homeland"

He didn't say they can't come back.

7 posted on 11/23/2004 11:07:52 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: Regulator

AAAAAAARRRGH!!


8 posted on 11/23/2004 11:08:25 AM PST by A Navy Vet (www.vetscor.org)
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Mexican workers who paid into Social Security in the United States will be refunded their contributions when they return to their homeland

I imagine that the possibilities for fraud with this scheme are limitless.

9 posted on 11/23/2004 11:08:48 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: Regulator
"The initiatives entail the recognition of all those (Mexicans) who have worked in the United States legally or otherwise, so they will have the right to the savings they accumulated while working in the neighboring country,"

Good, give them their savings, deduct any government services received by them or their family, deport them and identify the lawbreaking employers for fines.

10 posted on 11/23/2004 11:09:22 AM PST by Dolphy
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"He didn't say they can't come back."

Then those old, retired Mexicans are going to be making lots of cross-border trips in your world...as Social Security pays out monthly, not in lottery lump sums...

11 posted on 11/23/2004 11:09:57 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Regulator

So what does Mexico have to legislate for this? Why are they to introduce legislation?

This sounds like another raid on Social Security to me. Sneak across the border, steal some poor saps social security number and work a few months, and then go home with the whole bundle?

Meanwhile poor-sap is none the wiser.

Rinse, Repeat.


12 posted on 11/23/2004 11:10:19 AM PST by konaice
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To: skip_intro
"I imagine that the possibilities for fraud with this scheme are limitless."

Imagination is a wonderful thing.

13 posted on 11/23/2004 11:10:39 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Regulator

So......................

If I announce that I'm now a mexican and will be returning to mexico, the dept of treasury will pay me the total amount of contributions that have been confiscated from my earnings for the past 28 years?


14 posted on 11/23/2004 11:10:42 AM PST by WhiteGuy (The Constitution requires no interpretation, only enforcement.)
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ONLY their contributions, or do they get the till death do us part retirement program Americans get?

Can I get my contributions if I migrate to Mexico?

15 posted on 11/23/2004 11:10:56 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Regulator

I'll be sending some faxes to Frank Wolf courtesy of numbersusa.com on this one.


16 posted on 11/23/2004 11:11:44 AM PST by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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Then those old, retired Mexicans are going to be making lots of cross-border trips in your world...as Social Security pays out monthly, not in lottery lump sums...

Where does it say they have to be old, and how do you know it isn't a lump sum? Sure sounds like it is to me from the article.

17 posted on 11/23/2004 11:12:33 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: Southack

Someone in Mexico couldn't deposit the check and do a wire-transfer of the money back to the USA each month?


18 posted on 11/23/2004 11:13:05 AM PST by brianl703 (Border crossing is a misdemeanor. So is drunk driving. Which do we have more checkpoints for?)
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To: Regulator

First deduct the cost of all public assistance received, education costs for any children and whatever else is appropriate.


19 posted on 11/23/2004 11:14:29 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud; turn more counties red!)
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To: Regulator

TOM TANCREDO 2008 = LAST HOPE TO SAVE AMERICA


20 posted on 11/23/2004 11:14:57 AM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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